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AMD FX Next (pilverdriver) FM2 socket?

Mattuk69

Mattuk69

Mattuk69

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AMD are you taking the ****? I think so... So AMD users buy AM3+ motherboards for your Garbagedozer CPU's. And now your FX next CPU's need a FM2 motherboard:mad:

I was expecting AMD to do the smart thing and tweak the FX CPU's so they could atleast compete with the i5 2500k.
But no, they add 2 more cores and say its 10% faster...

Is this thing flopped before its even benchmarked?
 
I thought piledriver was am3+, isnt llano FM2? or is that FM1....

Either way, tbh if you already had am3 and bought an am3+ board then it was a bit of a pointless upgrade and you probably didn't need to do it. Same for am3+ and FM2...
 
I fancy boys said:
I thought piledriver was am3+, isnt llano FM2? or is that FM1....

Either way, tbh if you already had am3 and bought an am3+ board then it was a bit of a pointless upgrade and you probably didn't need to do it. Same for am3+ and FM2...
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Well its all over the net FM2 and AM3+ so i dont know. Hopefully is it AM3+ because i only just got my 990FX board a month ago. I didn't just upgrade for Bulldozer but for Xfire and i was still on DDR2 ram:)
 
Mattuk69 said:
AMD are you taking the ****? I think so... So AMD users buy AM3+ motherboards for your Garbagedozer CPU's. And now your FX next CPU's need a FM2 motherboard:mad:

I was expecting AMD to do the smart thing and tweak the FX CPU's so they could atleast compete with the i5 2500k.
But no, they add 2 more cores and say its 10% faster...

Is this thing flopped before its even benchmarked?
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Piledriver is scheduled to have the same number of cores as Bulldozer and be on the same AM3+ socket, as well as be 15% faster through architectural improvements.
 
ng93 said:
Piledriver is scheduled to have the same number of cores as Bulldozer and be on the same AM3+ socket, as well as be 15% faster through architectural improvements.
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The "Komodo" stuff is what he's quoting.

AMD's slide says 10%.
Probably a mix of stock clock speeds and IPC.
 
AM3+ also came out for Phenom II. So that's 2 generations of processors?

As others have said 1156 to 1155 (nehalem to sb) was hardly nice for consumers.
 
Martini1991 said:
The "Komodo" stuff is what he's quoting.

AMD's slide says 10%.
Probably a mix of stock clock speeds and IPC.
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Eye, Anandtech reckons its 10-15% made up of clock speeds and IPC. (Taken from the 8150 review but CBA to find the link :p)

And yh trinity is piledriver, so hopefully we can compare that to the FX4100 for a rough indication of next gen bulldozer (can't remember the code name :o).
 
Martini1991 said:
Trinity is going to be running Piledrivers "cores" isn't it?
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yeah, Trinity is two 'Piledriver' modules with an onboard 7*** series GPU. interestingly enough there was an article online (can't remember where) that claims Trinity is performing better than Llano at a lower clock speed, keeping in mind that Llano uses 'Husky' cores which are enhanced K10.5 that are used in Phenom II, suggests that there is some sort of large update in Piledriver that isn't present in Bulldozer that is going to significantly improve per core performance.

also no, 'Vishera' or the desktop version of 'Piledriver' is not FM2, FM2 is Trinity' socket, like Llano was FM1, 'Vishera' is AM3+ and there is no word on when it will be appearing at the moment. the only details are that there will be a ten-core (five module) version appearing on AM3+ using 'Piledriver' architecture, the fact it is still in the same TDP as Bulldozer suggests that 'Piledriver' is an improvement across the board, thermal, power consumption, instructions/cycle, clock speeds, everything which is potentially great news for anyone who doesn't bat for Intel. :)
 
Martini1991 said:
I thought the 5 module part got scrapped, as that was Komodo.
In the slides it says upto 8 cores.
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maybe they have, haven't checked up on these things in a while. would love to see what Bulldozer performs like with no L3 cache, because the way I see it, remove the L3 and you could fit another two modules in there! and be up-to six modules/twelve cores on one-die! :eek:

lots of speculation suggesting that it would make little difference due to the large shared L2 cache that each module has, shame we can't just disable the L3 and find out! :(
 
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