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AMD getting a spanking, how to support the underdog

councilofdespai

councilofdespai

councilofdespai

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OK, Intel have at present got C2D and its a nice cpu and not matter how much we curse Intel we know that if you are going to buy a new cpu, mobo, memory setup in the next 6 months we would be stoopid as enthusiasts to go AMD, pricing is in Intels favour as is performance and overcloking capability.

Since buying ATi though you can still releive your anxiety at turning traitor by buying ATi grafix cards. Trouble is Nvidia are very competetive in this area but I went ATi myself to help out the underdog.

Anyone else done or planning on doing the same to relieve that back stabbing feeling?
 
Personal opinion, I dont really care whose the better perfomer. You have to think about yourselves because at the end of the day its our hard earned money etc, these companys make a fortune - AMD will still make a profit trust me, they could afford to buy out ATI so that says something.

I coudnt give a crap if ATI is better than Nvidia or Nvidia is better than ATI, just buy what you think will be best for you, read reviews etc - they are usually on par with each other except for power issues or a few FPS, more heat than the other etc, they both have weaknesses.

As for AMD V Intel just go with what is the best in terms of everything - Intel (for the time being). Pay for what gives you the best performance for your money.
 
If I was upgrading to Intel I wouldnt feel the least bit bad about it. I'd be stupid not to get the best equipment for my money at that present time, even though Ive just invested in an Opteron 165 becuase I cant justify buying new mobo, ram etc for a C2D. When it comes to graphics cards however I would only buy ATI as Ive had a better experience with their chipsets than Nvidia :)
 
councilofdespai said:
Anyone else done or planning on doing the same to relieve that back stabbing feeling?
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Why would you?

Don't think you're supporting an underdog, you're just letting them rip you off, as Intel and Nvidia are simply offering better performance and value for money....
 
I'd be worried if anyone actually thought that way. This "underdog" has an annual R&D budget that stretches into the $bns, so it's not like its a family run operation from just over the road. If AMD end up dominant, they'll protect their position in any way they can, just like Intel have done. Anyone who thinks otherwise should consider "fluffy" old Apple and Steve Jobs, and their refusal to licencing out iTunes.
 
Every CPU "line" has around 18 months to two years to make its money before the competition usuaally takes over (the pIV lasted a little less time I seem to recall as Intel still saw the clock speed as "be all and end all" which blatently wasnt the case) - Obviously high street shops etc are usually behind in this to take advantage of general population not being so clued up - which is why the A64 is still selling pretty reasonably even though C2D is out in vast numbers)

The GPU market seems to be down to about half that if not less now, and the G80 - if everything is to be believed about ATI's R600 - might not even get 6 months at the top, but it will still sell well into 2008 probably ....or a subtle revision of it will.

To my mind ATI isnt as much of an underdog to nvidia as AMD is to Intel, this might be due to nature of the beast ie In any given GPU generation more focus is given to the top performer on the desktop side and then there are lesser derivatives of this one chip depending on cost etc however with CPU's (not even taking into account chipset design etc that Intel and ATI both do now) there seems to be more of a fundamental spread and while AMD are doing better, they still cant compete with the sheer number of options that Intel have on different platforms - maybe this impression is wrong but not drastically so
 
i don't mind supporting the underdog when it comes to sport, but if i'm buying tech equipment i'll buy the best i can get for my money without regard for who makes it.

i've never had any kind of allegiance to any tech company, and why should i? it's kind of foolish no?

i can understand loyalty to motor companies for instance but techs?? heh that's just weird in my eyes, but it's your money so whatever floats your boat i guess.
 
Most of the systems I've built are based on inexpensive single cores. Until Intel become competitive in the single core price bracket I will still be buying A64s and Semprons.
 
james.miller said:
dont give a stuff. ill buy the best my money can get me at the time.
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Exactly - I would never keep to one company or buy certain hardware "to help the underdog".
 
I'll buy whatever I feel gives the best performance at the price I can afford. I just don't feel emotionally attached to any particular CPU or chipset manufacturer - it seems kind of a weird idea TBH.

As a side note I understand AMD are selling every chip they can make so I wouldn't say they were struggling. Intel has far more production capacity than AMD as far as I know, so until that changes will always have more of the market.
 
Papa Lazarou said:
As a side note I understand AMD are selling every chip they can make so I wouldn't say they were struggling. Intel has far more production capacity than AMD as far as I know, so until that changes will always have more of the market.
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Dual core isnt exactly a huge slice of the market. The majority of the market is in cheap single core solutions, where the A64 and Sempron still beat the P4 5xx\6xx and Celeron.
 
It's their job to offer the most competitive product. If they don't then they won't get my money. I could care less about supporting the underdog. AMD aren't a bunch of hobos.
 
Dude, wth, they dont care how you feel, they are out to extract cash from your pocket and that is it. FACT

I dont give a monkeys about how well a company is doing or if they are an 'underdog', £/speed is my motive and will remain that.

If i was to get a new rig (which i dont need, x2 is more than fast enough for what i do) i would without a second thought pick up a nvidia mobo and intel c2d/q proc.
 
Well must admit iv been a die hard ATI and AMD fan since the K6-2 day's , However this year iv changed over to NVIDIA and INTEL buying the 7950gx2 and a C2D E6600 over the ATI 1900XT and the Athlon64 4000 that i did have..... Dont think it really matters about supporting AMD etc because lets face it next year AMD might be winning the war , so then we would be back to saying lets support INTEL .. if ya see what i mean... :rolleyes:
 
It aint about how they feel but about how you feel aint it, lots of people sign up to stuff because they are into it, music (why like one band over another if all they want if your money), politics etc etc etc.

The general consensus here seems to be buy the best as you see it to be.
 
councilofdespai said:
OK, Intel have at present got C2D and its a nice cpu and not matter how much we curse Intel we know that if you are going to buy a new cpu, mobo, memory setup in the next 6 months we would be stoopid as enthusiasts to go AMD, pricing is in Intels favour as is performance and overcloking capability.

Since buying ATi though you can still releive your anxiety at turning traitor by buying ATi grafix cards. Trouble is Nvidia are very competetive in this area but I went ATi myself to help out the underdog.

Anyone else done or planning on doing the same to relieve that back stabbing feeling?
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Do you think that AMD care about you?
Do you think that INTEL care about you?
Do you think that ATIcare about you?
Do you think that NV care about you?

They couldn't care less.

All they care about is money so don't be so naive.

You are not helping anyone buying the inferior tech.All you are doing is ripping yourself off.

I jump ship when the price performance options dictate.I couldn't give a stuff who makes what.I buy AMD INTEL ATI OR NV.

I buy what is fastest at the time.

If AMD release a chip faster than conroe I will jump ship again.

Brand loyalty is for losers.
 
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