AMD GPU - 7900XTX

Hinder · Wednesday at 11:38

Hello people!

Taking in account the new realeases (5000 NVDIA series and the 9070 xt), what do you think about upgrading from a 3070 TI to a 7900 xtx now, for 2k and 4k gaming purposes. Last time I had a GPU from AMD was probably around 2005 and I am seeing a lot of different opinions in regards to their software efficiency and drivers stability.

Is it worth taking in account a 7900xtx or would a 5070 ti/9070 xt be a better fit for the buck (the prices are yet again all over the place like NVIDIA has done since the 2000 series and it will probably settle down maybe after 6-12 months). I am mentioning that I would find it better to invest in a 6080/6090 when they will be released rather than going for a 5080/5090 now.

Thank you!

Hinder · Wednesday at 11:45

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freddie64 · Thursday at 08:52

Think i would go for the 9070 XT. Supposed to be a lot better at Ray Tracing and cheaper than a 7900 XTX.

Tythus · Thursday at 13:00

Hinder said:
Hello people!

Taking in account the new realeases (5000 NVDIA series and the 9070 xt), what do you think about upgrading from a 3070 TI to a 7900 xtx now, for 2k and 4k gaming purposes. Last time I had a GPU from AMD was probably around 2005 and I am seeing a lot of different opinions in regards to their software efficiency and drivers stability.

Is it worth taking in account a 7900xtx or would a 5070 ti/9070 xt be a better fit for the buck (the prices are yet again all over the place like NVIDIA has done since the 2000 series and it will probably settle down maybe after 6-12 months). I am mentioning that I would find it better to invest in a 6080/6090 when they will be released rather than going for a 5080/5090 now.

Thank you!

If the price is right sure but you will be missing out on FSR4 and the raytracing boost.

atomixers · Thursday at 13:43

There’s no isssue with drivers and stability any more with AMD. It was pretty much resolved from mid 2020 onwards from my experience.

The issue is price vs performance. A lot of the recent reviews have used a cost per frame to rank the cards and the XTX doesn’t come off as well as the newer ones.

If you need the 24GB of vram then it may be worth it, but then for those type of workflows you’d probably be better off with an Nvidia one.

Craig_d1 · Thursday at 17:10

just upgraded to a 9070xt from 3070ti myself and game at 4k. SUCH an improvement. FSR4 being so much better than FSR3 (and not backward compatible) is a deal breaker for me...I wouldn't want to buy a higher end card with such a poor upscaler. FSR4 is up there with dlss so there's not quality loss moving from nvidia to amd
I'm only gaming so for me, nvidia cuda etc not really relevant to me. If a 5070ti was within £100 of a 9070xt, maybe I would have got that, as it is faster (not a great deal, but in some RT games) and with the cuda etc, prob hold it's value better as might be more productivity buyer when you come to sell it down the line, but who know...as is, the 5070ti is over £200 more, and i dont think that's worth it, so that's mhy I moved to eam red for the 1st time ever...so far so good. no regrets

WARburton · Thursday at 17:22

Craig_d1 said:
FSR4 is up there with dlss so there's not quality loss moving from nvidia to amd

its really not, but it is good. all the online reviews say it good but just not as good as DLSS yet..
but i just game at native resolution, both DLSS and FSR have problems with artifacts, ghosting and ruff edges.

Craig_d1 said:
If a 5070ti was within £100 of a 9070xt, maybe I would have got that, as it is faster (not a great deal, but in some RT games)

its faster in every RT game, AMD is trying but there on the back foot so to say with RT

Craig_d1 · Thursday at 17:30

WARburton said:
its really not, bt it is good. all the online reviews say it good but just not as good as DLSS yet..
but i just game at native resolution, both DLSS and FSR have problems with artifacts, ghosting and ruff edges.

HU did a deep dive and put it between dlss3 and dlss4. digital foundry were similar...which reviews have you read that put it behind dlss3?

below also worth a watch being able to enable fsr4 with optiscaler..again, the fsr footage is way better than fsr3..even if not as good as dlss (hard to imagine it's worse when you see the footage), it can't be that far behind...I certainly wont have any complaints.

Craig_d1 · Thursday at 17:43

those were the 2 i watched..prob as big a deep dive as I could take without nodding off

WARburton · Thursday at 17:56

Craig_d1 said:
HU did a deep dive and put it between dlss3 and dlss4. digital foundry were similar...which reviews have you read that put it behind dlss3?

i didnt say it behind DLSS3 i just said it wasn't as good as the new one. FSR is good i used it with a 7800xt

Craig_d1 · Thursday at 20:08

WARburton said:
i didnt say it behind DLSS3 i just said it wasn't as good as the new one. FSR is good i used it with a 7800xt

err, I said fsr4 is up there with dlss (as sits between dlss3and dlss4), asnd you replied 'it's really not'...pretty much implied it ain't as good :cry:

. but never mind, we're obv talking cross wires...7800xt is fsr3 though which just using as algorith to upscale the frames, whereasFSR4 is an ai upscaler like dlss (dlss 3 uses cnn model, dlss4 transformer model which is better, but more taxing..one reason why the fps uplift isn't as great on the 5000 series compared to 4000 series as it's harder on the gpu to upscale)...FSR4 is meant to be a hybrid of cnn and transformer, prob why people say it sits in the middle of them... my 3070ti was dlss2 and i thought that was good, so i have no qualms about fsr4. fsr3 isn't as good as dlss, as you say...why i wouldn't go for the 7900xtx. At some point in the future you'll want you upscaler to give your card a bit more longevity, so you'll want the better upscaller (that's my view anyway)
anyway, been too busy gauking as the improved textures I'm getting now I'm playing 4k native with 16gb vram...rather than dlss with 8gb on the 3070ti....I liked my nvidia card but with my 7800x3d it was running at 99% while the cpu was running at 20%. when i booted up Indy Jones I saw my cpu go to 99% useage...never seen that before...happy to see that the cpu is being fully utilised for once

my only take to the op is don't be too afraid of going amd, the 9070xt is a good card..ok, you can't get it at £569 anymore 9and i bought a nitro+ model anyway), but even at £650 to £700 compared to £890(cheapest 5070ti available) for a 5070ti it's still good value...Sure if the 5070ti goes back to £750, the 7090xt will drop back to msrp also...as said in the other thread, more to do with cost of difference, rather than anything else now, if you're in the mkt for a gpu at this level...or as you say, if you don't want to pay these prices, wait, in the hope they go down(should after initial excitement wears off and sterling keeps where it is), or wait for next generation. There's no right or wrong, everyone has their own metrics they go by

WARburton · Thursday at 21:39

Craig_d1 said:
rr, I said fsr4 is up there with dlss (as sits between dlss3and dlss4), asnd you replied 'it's really not'...pretty much implied it ain't as good

no i said FSR is not upto the standard of DLSS4 and your link says its good but fall short.... so?.....