@AMD / OcUK More 1440P Free-Sync screens please + Some feedback on stuff.

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Hello.

I'm looking at the possibility of buying a Free-Sync Screen in a few weeks.

What i'm looking for are 1440P to 4K at roughly the £250 mark.
My option are pretty dire, basically this Iiyama Prolite B2783QSU-B1 27" 2560x1440
I remember that screen appearing when Free-Sync first launched, its one of the first screens to be badged as such, it has a Free-Sync Range of 48 to 70 FPS, thats no use to me, more on that later.

A wider range of Free-Sync screens available in the higher price range but i would have thought by now Free-Sync would have worked its way right across the range, to make it an affordable alternative to G-Sync was the intention, or not?

Its not as if 1440P screens are a rare thing around the £250 mark.


This is a nice screen
Here
4K one Here
Here
£199 Here
Another 4K screen for £290. Here

You get the picture ^^^^ see for yourselves, the next cheapest Free-Sync screen above 1080P is £320, granted its a 4K screen but thats not necessarily what i'm looking for, if i was inclined to spend enough on GPU power for 4K gaming i'm going to be spending more than £320 on a 4K screen.


With my main point made i want to get back to Free-Sync Refresh Rate ranges.
With regards to that Iiyama Free-Sync screen.
I'm one of CiG Star Citizen Evocati Testers, i spend a lot of time in that game and with the Net Code the way it currently is the Frame Rates at the best of times don't get to 48, even on virtually empty test servers.
Ideally i would be looking for something that ranges from 20 FPS but i know thats probably asking a bit much, an entirely new Net Code Architecture is currently being built primarily to handle greatly expended content but also to improve client performance, so with that a range of 30 FPS is surly not too much to ask.

Thats me and i specific needs but i cannot imagine a range of 48 to 70 FPS being all that inviting to a lot of people, if people looking at £250 1440P screens looking for a better quality of image the higher resolution gives them over the 1080P screen they may have had for years then they are likely to be put off.
A Free-Sync screen is in fact something that someone on a budget would be very interested in as they are likely to have GPU's that cannot drive 1440P at high frame rates and with Free-Sync thats not a problem because the game play is smooth even at 30/35 FPS, and yet if they need to get the Frame rates up to 48 before it even starts to work then its useless to them.

Screen Vendors want to sell screens, the chances are there are millions of people all with 1080P screens hanging on to them as they do not see the point in upgrading or rather 'side grading' to another 1080P screen.
But with affordable 1440P screens that have Free-Sync in a range that does not require high end GPU's to drive high frame rates for smooth gameplay suddenly you have something to offer a huge potential market.

I don't understand how Screen Vendors and their marketing teams haven't already come to realise this, Free-Sync if targeted and marketed correctly has the potential to drive significant sales to a sector of consumers you couldn't without it.

thanks for reading. :)
 
I imagine if the technology was there and affordable too, the screen vendors would already be selling them at this price point.

Im not clued up on FreeSync but maybe the tech just isn't mature enough to operate at 30fps yet?
 
humbug said:
My option are pretty dire,

Not as dire as if you were looking for a g-sync monitor for £250.


I'm not sure how realistic you are being with your expectations about monitor manufacturers.

AMD have a pretty small install base these days and their average punter is not a big spender. I don't find it surprising that the manufacturers have put their toe in the water with 1080p first.

As for the 30p question. The nvidia hardware allowing the low syncs is the main justification for their module pricing.
 
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According to PCM2, the fps range doesn't matter due to the low frame compensation that AMD have.

That feature is called LFC (Low Frame Rate Compensation) and only works on models where the minimum refresh rate is over twice (or possibly 2.5x) the maximum refresh rate.
 
The working freesync range has been an issue highlighted a lot since the introduction of Free-sync, The first freesync LG 21:9 on the market had a 60 hz panel with a starting point of 48 which was a joke. I've seen panels with 40 to 90 & 40 to 120 the 1440p Benq is one but if you want a wide working range you have to pay more, I brought this up on the forum just before there release quoting Huddy who basically told us this would be the case, Panels with wider working ranges would cost more than those we were getting offered in the beginning.

This is one of the better ones today but it's still starting at 40 so not a lot of use for you
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...escreen-led-slim-bezel-monitor-mo-083-as.html

When the freesync screens first released I was going to buy an LG 21:9 to go with my 290x but after learning how small the working range was I bought a Fury instead. I'm still struggling to decide on a new monitor because although we now have more choice it's hard to get info on the working range for a lot of them and that rings alarm bells for me so I'm still waiting for the right one with all the relevant info. It beyond me why they think it's okay not to tell us the working ranges width. I think there was a monitor that's range started at 35hz but I do not remember the model as it wasn't the type I'm interested in.
 
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The working freesync range has been an issue highlighted a lot since the introduction of Free-sync, The first freesync LG 21:9 on the market had a 60 hz panel with a starting point of 48 which was a joke. I've seen panels with 40 to 90 & 40 to 120 the 1440p Benq is one but if you want a wide working range you have to pay more, I brought this up on the forum just before there release quoting Huddy who basically told us this would be the case, Panels with wider working ranges would cost more than those we were getting offered in the beginning.

This is one of the better ones today but it's still starting at 40 so not a lot of use for you
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus...escreen-led-slim-bezel-monitor-mo-083-as.html

When the freesync screens first released I was going to buy an LG 21:9 to go with my 290x but after learning how small the working range was I bought a Fury instead. I'm still struggling to decide on a new monitor because although we now have more choice it's hard to get info on the working range for a lot of them and that rings alarm bells for me so I'm still waiting for the right one with all the relevant info. It beyond me why they think it's okay not to tell us the working ranges width. I think there was a monitor that's range started at 35hz but I do not remember the model as it wasn't the type I'm interested in.

This one has a range of 35 to 75Hz

According to this

Its only 1080P and i'm worried about the low price in what the image quality might be like.

Apparently its not bad at all, not great but not bad.

I'm seriously considering it now as its an inexpensive stopgap and TBH i could do with a new SSD and a couple of other bits.

I want Free-Sync and i will be getting the cut down Vega GPU to drive it.
But £400/£500 for 1440P Free-Sync to me is just insane, the Free-Sync feature to me is not worth anything like that even if the screen its self is.

It just seems to me most Screen Vendors just don't want Free-Sync 'or any Adaptive Sync tech given G-Sync also has a very small rage' to be mainstream.

They obviously think exclusivity from it is what drives sales.

In that i commend AOC for having one with a good range in the bargain price segment.

I just don't get their thinking on this, With Free-Sync they have something that should drive sales across the full range of pricing, and yet they chose to go low volume.
 
I just don't get their thinking on this, With Free-Sync they have something that should drive sales across the full range of pricing, and yet they chose to go low volume.

Maybe it still costs more to implement than people are guessing at.
If any company saw a big potential ROI on anything they would be falling over themselves to implement it.
 
If AOC can do them @ 35 to 75Hz at £110 i don't see why others can't

Definitely,
That's a great price and if it didn't mean dropping down from 27" which I do not want to do I'd of grabbed one. My current 27" 2ms 60hz 1080p cost me £215 when I got it 5 odd years ago so I want an upgrade from that which means changes such as IPS & either a bigger 16:9 or a 21:9.

I'd be interested in something like this with Freesync if possible
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/benq...lim-bezel-flicker-free-monitor-mo-099-bq.html

I'm not sure where it sits between IPS and TN but that or maybe even something similar to this in a couple of years.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phil...z-widescreen-led-monitor-black-mo-024-ph.html

We certainly need a much wider range of freesync panels at both ends of the price spectrum as well as a range of panels with better working ranges.
 
I currently have an LG IPS226, a 21.5" 60Hz 1080P screen, 4 or 5 years i have had it, its been a good screen but i have been waiting to move on from it for at least a year.

Free-Sync doesn't seem to be going my way so to scratch an itch i might just get that AOC and see what Free-Sync is like, keep it for a year, re-evaluate and look again at spending £400/£500 on a screen if need be.

My SSD is also old and only 128GB, i need a new Chair and my HAF 912+ is also 4 or 5 years old....

Yeah i think the AOC will do for now and i'll come back to screen later on.
 
I currently have an LG IPS226, a 21.5" 60Hz 1080P screen, 4 or 5 years i have had it, its been a good screen but i have been waiting to move on from it for at least a year.

Free-Sync doesn't seem to be going my way so to scratch an itch i might just get that AOC and see what Free-Sync is like, keep it for a year, re-evaluate and look again at spending £400/£500 on a screen if need be.

My SSD is also old and only 128GB, i need a new Chair and my HAF 912+ is also 4 or 5 years old....

Yeah i think the AOC will do for now and i'll come back to screen later on.

It is a good way to try free-sync for minimal cost. I'm also needing to replace my ssd, It's a 256gb 840 but writes are in the low 200's so I'll go M.2 eventually so that's another available upgrade in the ever evolving PC world. If money wasn't a hurdle it'd never stop.
 
I currently have an LG IPS226, a 21.5" 60Hz 1080P screen, 4 or 5 years i have had it, its been a good screen but i have been waiting to move on from it for at least a year.

Free-Sync doesn't seem to be going my way so to scratch an itch i might just get that AOC and see what Free-Sync is like, keep it for a year, re-evaluate and look again at spending £400/£500 on a screen if need be.

My SSD is also old and only 128GB, i need a new Chair and my HAF 912+ is also 4 or 5 years old....

Yeah i think the AOC will do for now and i'll come back to screen later on.

Theres always used/b-grade if you're on a budget, I needed a new chair too and a used one for £100, a quarter of the price of a new one. Its very obviously used but gets the job done (and does wonders for my back). Not ideal but I guess the question is how much is it worth to you and how long are you prepared to wait for it?
 
Theres always used/b-grade if you're on a budget, I needed a new chair too and a used one for £100, a quarter of the price of a new one. Its very obviously used but gets the job done (and does wonders for my back). Not ideal but I guess the question is how much is it worth to you and how long are you prepared to wait for it?

Yeah that's an idea, screens I don't mind getting used if in good condition as they can't really be abused, last for years and years without going wrong, ecte... I don't like spending significant money on used Motherboard's and GPU's unless its from someone i'm very familiar with here.

I will wait and look to see if something pops up by the end of the month or perhaps a little beyond.
 
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