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AMD Phenom Launch Schedule & Roadmap
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Looks like the Agena chips are the ones to wait for to upgrade those current AM2 setups.. can't wait 
Any thoughts if AMD is going to put up a good fight like the K8 did. Or has Intel just pulled away too much.
I mean there are rumours they might go fabless, and Intel has working silion of a terascale chip!!! AMD is in debt and nothing new to show, graphics card is loosing to nvidia a bit and was late....
I mean there are rumours they might go fabless, and Intel has working silion of a terascale chip!!! AMD is in debt and nothing new to show, graphics card is loosing to nvidia a bit and was late....
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they will pull back, of course they will. they are the only competetion.
and i swear your sig is too big. but i could be wrong
and i swear your sig is too big. but i could be wrong
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Do bear in mind that getting all one's news from the internet is never a good idea. Whilst the exemplar of instant communication, it also facilitates the spreading of unsubstantiated opinion and its citing as fact without recourse.
Can you imagine AMD (and its investors/creditors) just giving up with $billions worth of FABs? Not likely.
As for nothing new, they do have their Barcelona chips sampling - which may/may not be any good (there are reports to support both sides of the argument) - they have their stream processor and other jazz no doubt.
Remember that the uninitiated were even considering Intel's downfall with the trumpeted introduction and subsequent reliance on Prescott and its derivatives for a couple of years? And they had nothing to show for it?
The roadmap looks interesting, however, although I do worry that it will slip quite a bit. From what I've read (can't reference due to competitor links on the site) Phenom samples and supporting hardware thus far have been running very slowly - about 1.4GHz - and poorly for the stated speed. Still, it will be good to see what their new architecture can do...
**WARNING POSSIBLE GUFF ALERT FROM THE FUD**
As AMD seriously slipped all its schedules Budapest can be expected at late 2007 if not even later. Budapest is K10 core with native HyperTransport 3.0 that will offer more interconnection and should make the dual socket machines fast.
As Barcelona will be known as B1-Stepping of the K10 core, Budapest the following core will be branded as B2-Stepping and the new revision should enable some higher speeds. Budapest and Agena – Phenom processors should be able to run up to 2.8 GHz and this should give Intel some competition.
Another snip here..
Opteron 2268 rocks at 2.4 GHz
We received a confirmation of the future product numbers of AMD Opteron "Barcelona" 2000-Series Quad-core CPUs. The slowest one is called AMD Opteron 2258 and it works at 1.9 GHz. The second in line is AMD Opteron 2260 and it works at 2.0 GHz.
The third one is AMD Opteron 2262 and it works at 2.1 GHz, fourth AMD Opteron 2264 and it works at 2. 2 GHz, fifth AMD Opteron 2266 and it works at 2.3 GHz and the last one sixth in the line is AMD Opteron 2268 and it works at 2.4 GHz.
All these CPUs are powered with 4x512 KB of L2 cache and 2 MB of L3 cache. The biggest limitation of Barcelona K10 core is HyperTransport 1.0 support that works at modest 1000 MHz while the HT 3 chips are scheduled for later date.
The launch revision is called B1-Stepping.
So we`re really waiting for budapest and agena then?.I hope amd have a good comeback with these and how they compare to intels quads
As AMD seriously slipped all its schedules Budapest can be expected at late 2007 if not even later. Budapest is K10 core with native HyperTransport 3.0 that will offer more interconnection and should make the dual socket machines fast.
As Barcelona will be known as B1-Stepping of the K10 core, Budapest the following core will be branded as B2-Stepping and the new revision should enable some higher speeds. Budapest and Agena – Phenom processors should be able to run up to 2.8 GHz and this should give Intel some competition.
Another snip here..
Opteron 2268 rocks at 2.4 GHz
We received a confirmation of the future product numbers of AMD Opteron "Barcelona" 2000-Series Quad-core CPUs. The slowest one is called AMD Opteron 2258 and it works at 1.9 GHz. The second in line is AMD Opteron 2260 and it works at 2.0 GHz.
The third one is AMD Opteron 2262 and it works at 2.1 GHz, fourth AMD Opteron 2264 and it works at 2. 2 GHz, fifth AMD Opteron 2266 and it works at 2.3 GHz and the last one sixth in the line is AMD Opteron 2268 and it works at 2.4 GHz.
All these CPUs are powered with 4x512 KB of L2 cache and 2 MB of L3 cache. The biggest limitation of Barcelona K10 core is HyperTransport 1.0 support that works at modest 1000 MHz while the HT 3 chips are scheduled for later date.
The launch revision is called B1-Stepping.
So we`re really waiting for budapest and agena then?.I hope amd have a good comeback with these and how they compare to intels quads
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new rule, posting fud links/info is illegal, worldwide.
they were a joke in the first place, then people started to purposely feed them fake info which, without any proof whatsoever fud published anyway. its officially a terrible site.
as for the average of what i've heard, its quite easily faster clock for clock than the kentsfield and penryn. penryn is at best 4-5% faster clock for clock than kentsfield unless SSE4 instructions are used which can give pretty huge gains. not sure if the K10 will have sse4 or not, also not sure how many apps will support it. no doubt some benchmarking apps will use it, encoding programs will intergrate it pretty quickly but as for other stuff we'll have to see.
people are using the showing of a 1.8Ghz agena at computex as reasons why clock speeds aren't as good as suggested. but IIRC the same situation with opterons was showing 1.4Ghz parts at trade shows. they simply use very early silicon thats been around a while and want to show a completely stable, cool, also the chance of things being stolen and benchmarks getting run, they don't want to show their hand as it were, before release. if they took a 2.5Ghz part and it trounced the 3Ghz kentsfields(everything indicates thats a certainty) then with public proof intel would probably risk higher costs for production and higher quality silicon for their penryn top cores to get a little more speed out. basically, why show your hand and alert the other side what they are in for, before its too late.
also bear in mind that coming very soon might be a whole number of games the 8800 gets spanked in. hardware AA is looking massively restrictive due to basically putting AA on everthing using averages. several companies say the future is software AA(AA on hardware thats programable on the core, where AA hardware isn't programable) because software lets you give higher image quality, so a lot of games might be moving that way. if thats the case the 2900xt made an exceptionally good call that will just take time to be seen. you only buy a 8800/2900xt for future games, a x1950xt/7900 gtx will basically run any game currently out in full detail at a high res. sure a 8800gtx/2900xt gets you higher framerates in current games but its about getting 60fps in future games while a x1950 or 7900 card would be giving you 20-30.
my guess is, around 2.4-2.6GHz on launch in a couple months, they'll hit 3-3.3Ghz on air and be equivilent to a 4Ghz kentsfield
they were a joke in the first place, then people started to purposely feed them fake info which, without any proof whatsoever fud published anyway. its officially a terrible site.
as for the average of what i've heard, its quite easily faster clock for clock than the kentsfield and penryn. penryn is at best 4-5% faster clock for clock than kentsfield unless SSE4 instructions are used which can give pretty huge gains. not sure if the K10 will have sse4 or not, also not sure how many apps will support it. no doubt some benchmarking apps will use it, encoding programs will intergrate it pretty quickly but as for other stuff we'll have to see.
people are using the showing of a 1.8Ghz agena at computex as reasons why clock speeds aren't as good as suggested. but IIRC the same situation with opterons was showing 1.4Ghz parts at trade shows. they simply use very early silicon thats been around a while and want to show a completely stable, cool, also the chance of things being stolen and benchmarks getting run, they don't want to show their hand as it were, before release. if they took a 2.5Ghz part and it trounced the 3Ghz kentsfields(everything indicates thats a certainty) then with public proof intel would probably risk higher costs for production and higher quality silicon for their penryn top cores to get a little more speed out. basically, why show your hand and alert the other side what they are in for, before its too late.
also bear in mind that coming very soon might be a whole number of games the 8800 gets spanked in. hardware AA is looking massively restrictive due to basically putting AA on everthing using averages. several companies say the future is software AA(AA on hardware thats programable on the core, where AA hardware isn't programable) because software lets you give higher image quality, so a lot of games might be moving that way. if thats the case the 2900xt made an exceptionally good call that will just take time to be seen. you only buy a 8800/2900xt for future games, a x1950xt/7900 gtx will basically run any game currently out in full detail at a high res. sure a 8800gtx/2900xt gets you higher framerates in current games but its about getting 60fps in future games while a x1950 or 7900 card would be giving you 20-30.
my guess is, around 2.4-2.6GHz on launch in a couple months, they'll hit 3-3.3Ghz on air and be equivilent to a 4Ghz kentsfield
Thread rez inc!
Anyone else disappointed that AMD's 45nm X2 chips (Regor) are not expected until June 2009 at the earliest?
Won't matter how good they are, everyone (not going to quad) will have an Intel C2D by then.
[my bad: q3 2009 now... not even as early as June, according to latest reports]
AMD... I loved you once, but I'm not holding on to this ageing 939 while you fail to do anything decent year after year...
Anyone else disappointed that AMD's 45nm X2 chips (Regor) are not expected until June 2009 at the earliest?
Won't matter how good they are, everyone (not going to quad) will have an Intel C2D by then.
[my bad: q3 2009 now... not even as early as June, according to latest reports]
AMD... I loved you once, but I'm not holding on to this ageing 939 while you fail to do anything decent year after year...
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Stop bumping really old threads please & make a fresh one. We don't charge you know!! 
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