Associate
- Joined
- 1 Oct 2007
- Posts
- 955
- Location
- Hawkes Bay , NZ
Is there a Phenom refresh due soon? Or are the current chips here for a while?
-
Competitor rules
Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.
AMD Phenom refresh soon?
- Thread starter hillbilly2
- Start date
Soldato
- Joined
- 9 Jan 2008
- Posts
- 6,521
- Location
- London/Camberley
Deneb is out in January/end of this year. It's the next gen amd chips.
Soldato
- Joined
- 18 Oct 2002
- Posts
- 12,281
- Location
- England
There interesting but dunno if they can catch up with Corei7 performance... the gaps just silly between the Quadcore letalone the Corei7 benchies... hopefully am totaly wrong though 
I would actually consider buying a Phenom if they could release a 3GHz + model.
At the moment i'm happy with my X2 6000+ but as i said above would definitely consider buying a 3ghz+ phenom.
@Talrinys What are the 2 new Phenom chips that are being released?
At the moment i'm happy with my X2 6000+ but as i said above would definitely consider buying a 3ghz+ phenom.
@Talrinys What are the 2 new Phenom chips that are being released?
Soldato
- Joined
- 15 Oct 2003
- Posts
- 16,247
- Location
- Chengdu
Whatever is released, I hope it's better priced than the 9150e...
I'm still happy with the performance offered by the 9600, I've only had it at 2.7ghz so far but it'll do until Deneb.
I'm still happy with the performance offered by the 9600, I've only had it at 2.7ghz so far but it'll do until Deneb.
Soldato
- Joined
- 15 Oct 2003
- Posts
- 16,247
- Location
- Chengdu
The 45nm refresh, increased/faster L3 cache and some performance tweaks.
Should hopefully allow for some higher overclocks, although as long as I can have one at a nice clean 3.0ghz then there'd be no complaints.
Should hopefully allow for some higher overclocks, although as long as I can have one at a nice clean 3.0ghz then there'd be no complaints.
Clock for clock performance increase, lower power and heat, considerably more cache and higher clocks.
If you believe the engineering samples on the web then they are also reaching 4+ GHz so easily man enough to take on Intel.
The mid 2GHz Phenoms are cripple by slow L3, start clocking them higher and the L3 comes in to play bumping performance considerably. UNLIKE Intel, the phenom gets exponentially quicker as the clocks go up.
A Phenom on 2.3GHz is something like 10-20% faster than a Dual Core at the same speed, ramp them both up to 3.2GHz and all of a sudden the Phenom doubles it's performance lead to 20-30+ % - this characteristic continues and hence why the higher clocked Phenoms can comfortable match AND beat *** Intel Q6600 (for example).
Many Intel fanboys ignore this fact because most reviews only look at stock (low) clock performance... which is a bit on the soft side.
If you believe the engineering samples on the web then they are also reaching 4+ GHz so easily man enough to take on Intel.
The mid 2GHz Phenoms are cripple by slow L3, start clocking them higher and the L3 comes in to play bumping performance considerably. UNLIKE Intel, the phenom gets exponentially quicker as the clocks go up.
A Phenom on 2.3GHz is something like 10-20% faster than a Dual Core at the same speed, ramp them both up to 3.2GHz and all of a sudden the Phenom doubles it's performance lead to 20-30+ % - this characteristic continues and hence why the higher clocked Phenoms can comfortable match AND beat *** Intel Q6600 (for example).
Many Intel fanboys ignore this fact because most reviews only look at stock (low) clock performance... which is a bit on the soft side.
There interesting but dunno if they can catch up with Corei7 performance... the gaps just silly between the Quadcore letalone the Corei7 benchies... hopefully am totaly wrong though
Not really mate, for what we would probably be using them for, gaming + desktop applications, they don't have to beat the current Phenoms by much to get to the Core i7 lvl, if i can overclock them to 3.5ghz+ and they have more cache i'm convinced that i will get one.
The problem is getting them to these high clocks, which is where the new 45nm Deneb comes in
For me they're already reaching clocks higher than my current dual-core chip can do, so i'm already happy, add another 400mhz to that and more/faster cache and i'll have one ASAP
Absolutely, most chips are enough for anyone right now - but i need as much power as possible for music applications, and it's not like more power is a bad thing