Amd Price cuts

[kitch9]

Lol at Bhavv mangasming over the small performing boost of the 680....

Some people need to get a grip.

 

[Alkalinepro5]

Lol, when overclocked they're the same, with the 680 winning some, and the 7970 winning some, prices will remain the same as they're effectively the same.

Oh, and the 680 is clocked mega high at stock as opposed to the 7970 being clocked low at stock.

I had a peaceful moment to think about your comments; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiKh9_4RDzs

 

[Naff8000]

I agree with CAT-THE-FIFTH and Marine-RX179 this gen has been a massive disappointment for me. Never has last gen's GPUs seemed so attractive especially at £180 for a 6950 and they're only bound to get cheaper. What makes it better is you're not going to be missing out on much performance either by opting for one of the older cards.

heh I completely disagree. I spent £200 on a 5850 2.5 years ago, what is the upgrade of a 6950 over that? I've been waiting to shell out for a new card for ages.

 

[Marine-RX179]

heh I completely disagree. I spent £200 on a 5850 2.5 years ago, what is the upgrade of a 6950 over that? I've been waiting to shell out for a new card for ages.

I think you misunderstood what he was trying to say

What he meant was probably dispite the 69xx performance were a bit meh comparing to the gen before it, because of how poor value this gen cards are, even the 69xx looks amazing now...that's how BAD the cards are of this gen in the sense of bang for bucks (because it is at a standstill comparing to last gen)

 

[Naff8000]

I think you misunderstood what he was trying to say

What he meant was probably dispite the 69xx performance were a bit meh comparing to the gen before it, because of how poor value this gen cards are, even the 69xx looks amazing now...that's how BAD the cards are of this gen in the sense of bang for bucks (because it is at a standstill comparing to last gen)

oh that went right over my head : /

 

[DarkHorizon472]

I think you misunderstood what he was trying to say

What he meant was probably dispite the 69xx performance were a bit meh comparing to the gen before it, because of how poor value this gen cards are, even the 69xx looks amazing now...that's how BAD the cards are of this gen in the sense of bang for bucks (because it is at a standstill comparing to last gen)

I would agree in terms of value for Money the new cards don't do very well so far. For bf3 my overclocked 6950 runs the game well at 1920*1080 with the detail turned down a bit. No need to pay twice as much for no real gain

 

[DX24]

Which one people 680 or 7970 at 1440 coming from 2 6950s 2GBs going on to another CF-SLI at some point.

 

[Macro]

AMD defense team? personally I just buy whatevers best within my price range and couldn't give a toss who made it, especially at present as I'm not in the market for a new GFX card for atleast 6 weeks. Maybe you should look objectively at the facts instead of making such silly posts as it's quite clear that there's very little in it either way.

Facts:

-from initial benchmarks when both cards are overclocked there's <5% difference between them and depends a lot more on individual games.

-If you don't plan to OC then the 680's give much better gaming performance, if you do it's very close and one would need to decide themselves what features are more important.

-The price is undeniably in AMD's favour at PRESENT, it doesn't matter that the 680's just came out as Nvidia had the option of pricing them however they liked and we're yet to see AMD's response to that. Especially as they have a much greater possibility of lowering prices having been selling the 7970's at top whack for months already. Quoting prices from a single store is meaningless and smacks of desperations, I can easily find £500 680's which is just as meaningless. So far across the plethora of different retailers when you shop around 7970's are available £30-50 cheaper than 680's.

-7970's have more Vram (3gb to 2gb) which from my personal experience becomes much more important at high resolution/settings and also if you plan to keep a card for several years as games evolve and use more Vram in recent years. Try playing Skyrim or BF3 on a 512mb card then on a similar 1gb card and you'll see a clear difference such as the two versions of the 4870.

-The 680 has a lot of good features, particularly TSAA, it's fairly meaningless at present but when games developers take it up over the next year or two then it should give a nice performance boost over MSAA.

-The 7970's marginally better at computational tasks so may be more useful to proffessionals.

At the end of the day both cards have their positives and negatives and it's up to each prospective buyer to say what is most useful to them personally. Whats clear is that "how unbelievably beat the red team is over the green team in this" is a crock of s*** and you should be embarrassed by your post.

Good summary and pretty much on the money. Anyone apart from the most ardent fanboys can see this round of 28nm is to all intents and purposes a draw. Despite the higher than normal prices this is good for end users letting them focus on features without compromising on performance.

 

[nshire]

I do like the fact that (hate as a customer) that both AMD and Nvidia have both held back. 7970 overclocks like crazy and nvidia includes a turbo boost. It's both wait to see who does what.
But I do think Nvidia probably hold the cards. 670ti (if rumours are true) was so good and just matched the 7970 Nvidia thought lets release it as 680 (and charge it as one) and saved the true 680 for when it's needed.
Now it's wait for AMD response. We know that they will release a dual core card but will they bring out a 7980/7975.

 

[HecFam]

I would like to question why you chose a banana?

 

[JediFragger]

I would like to question why you chose a banana?

No pineapples

 

[easyrider]

I would like to question why you chose a banana?

Tomatoes are not firm enough

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

heh I completely disagree. I spent £200 on a 5850 2.5 years ago, what is the upgrade of a 6950 over that? I've been waiting to shell out for a new card for ages.

The HD5850 1GB,in hindsight was a fantastic card for its price.

Faster than the previous world's fastest graphics card,the GTX285,had DX11,overclocked reasonably well,had reasonable power consumption and was around £200 for the cheapest model.

Where is the £200 card from the last two generations from either company which has done that at launch??

 

[opethdisciple]

The HD5850 1GB,in hindsight was a fantastic card for its price.

Faster than the previous world's fastest graphics card,the GTX285,had DX11,overclocked reasonably well,had reasonable power consumption and was around £200 for the cheapest model.

Where is the £200 card from the last two generations from either company which has done that at launch??

+1

This price point is what has been overlooked this time around by ATI and Nvidia.

It would have been nice if the 7870 could have filled this price point by being under £250

 

[Bobisuruncle54]

I'm just astonished that the prices of these cards have been accepted by so many consumers, let alone bought.

 

[elrasho]

I'm just astonished that the prices of these cards have been accepted by so many consumers, let alone bought.

Some people have saved up for months for one of these. I for one am one of them. I based my decision on getting one purely on the fact that I can't play AAAA games like BF3 they way I want to. All I want it 1080P everything maxed out and the FPS not to go below 60, the GTX680 will do this easily hence my purchase. The GTX680 will last me for at least 2 years on its own before I'd think about SLI, £420 over two years isn't much in the grand scheme of things. It's not like I'm buying a £420 jacket that I'll only wear on special occasions. I'll be using my GTX680 everyday.

Also I'm selling my 5850s so I'll get some money back too. If you look at it this way it's not as astonishing as you think.

 

[bhavv]

Lol at Bhavv mangasming over the small performing boost of the 680....

Some people need to get a grip.

I am not interested at all in either the 7970 or the GTX 680 based on their performance alone, neither would I be buying either over my current graphics cards for the prices they cost.

Im definitely very interested in how well Nvidis mid range GPU is performing compared to AMDs highest end.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I am not interested at all in either the 7970 or the GTX 680 based on their performance alone, neither would I be buying either over my current graphics cards for the prices they cost.

Im definitely very interested in how well Nvidis mid range GPU is performing compared to AMDs highest end.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=21532597&postcount=29

"Hi there

I've had access to roadmaps for sometime and have access to the latest.

GTX 680 was intended for March/April, it is now here. Fact is NVIDIA were always intending to release GTX 680 class card now, yes the spec may have changed but this has always being scheduled launch for their top-end GTX 680 product.

Cards that will come next shall be 670Ti and 670, expect them around May time, maybe end of April, these shall both be slower than GTX 680 obviously.

GTX 680 2GB, aimed at 7970.
GTX 670ti replaces GTX 580 and shall also be 2GB at £320ish range, it will take on 7950 3GB.
GTX 670 replaces GTX 570 and no doubt 2GB also, expect £239.99 and well slightly faster than GTX 570.

GTX 560Ti and 560 are not due to be replaced until much later in the year.

All low-end, 520/550 etc. shall be re-branded into 6xx series, same cards just re-boxed as 6 series with slightly bumped clock speeds.

A dual GPU based card could and can be released when NVIDIA desire to do so, most likely called GTX 690.

Again GTX 680 is flagged on the roadmap as fastest single GPU card, will a faster single GPU card come this year. Well I guess that depends if NVIDIA feel they need one and if they do I suspect October-December timeframe.


What we can expect in April/May is AIB's making much faster and higher TDP varients of GTX 680.

Don't be surprised to see cards like EVGA GTX 680 Superclocked 4096MB soon with twice memory and higher clock speeds for £500-£600 region."



This whole generation of 28NM cards is fail. I am going to stick with what I have until next year.

I might just spend my money on a Core i5 or Core i7 or perhaps another mini-ITX computer. At least these will give me value for money.

Useless generation is useless.

So basically HD7870 level performance for around £240.

 

[d_brennen]

I'm just astonished that the prices of these cards have been accepted by so many consumers, let alone bought.

How much was the GTX280 at launch? Or the GTX480? GTX580? Do people really lose their mamory come new GPU time?

 

[tereu5]

This whole 28NM generation is a pile of fail. Not for the performance but the stupid pricing.

Hopefully,if the world is still around next year, I am going to get a card then.

I am going to probably spend my upgrade budget on a new CPU at this rate.

But it this "department" new CPU every year or so new socket .... so also ridiculously expensive to change that every time... for a good mobo + CPU ..at least the DDR3 would be on a market for a while ....is it?