AMD Radeon R9 390X Arrives In 1H 2015 – May Feature “Hydra” Liquid Cooling

[tommybhoy]

AMD Radeon R9 390X Arrives In 1H 2015 – May Feature “Hydra” Liquid Cooling
According to digitimes the R9 390X will become available in 1H of 2015. This spans a six month period from January to June so it’s quite wide. It goes without saying that AMD will try to push the new card out as soon as it is ready.
The R9 390X is rumored to be based on the Fiji GPU core and is set to be a truly next generation product.
Built on TSMC’s 20m manufacturing process the new GPU will feature several new cutting edge technologies. In addition to being the first GPU to be built on the 20nm process the card is also rumored to be the first to utilize High Bandwidth Memory or HBM for short. Which is a 3D stacked memory technology that promises more than 2X the bandwidth of GDDR5 and at a considerably lower power envelope.

The card will also allegedly be the first single GPU reference board to come with hybrid liquid cooling similar to the dual GPU R9 295X. Which is the fastest graphics card in the world at the present moment.
More than three months stand between now and 2015 however. And AMD will have to address the market now. According to digitimes and several other sources, AMD will be introducing some very aggressive price cuts on its R9 290 series. My own personal sources have also told me that AMD will very likely be introducing more big name video game titles to their never settle bundle program. All of this is in attempt to regain and maintain the comapny’s competitive market position in discrete graphics.
Other sources have also suggested a similar release plant for the R9 390X to what digitimes has reported. Which is a 1H 2015 time frame for the R9 390X. Giving this rumor more validity. We’ll keep digging for more details so stay tuned.

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-390x-arrives-1h-2015-feature-hydra-liquid-cooling/

 

[Ayahuasca]

If this is the first 20nm card on the market AMD will get a lot of sales.

 

[Kaapstad]

It should arrive just in time to get totally thrashed by the Maxwell Titan and other GM200 cards.

It is going to be a difficult 12 months for AMD.

 

[Uncle Petey]

That it requires a built in CLC for a single gpu is a bit of an alarm bell for me tbh.

ED: Ok, they say 'allegedly'...

 

[~Mike~]

Worrying if it does feature liquid cooling.

The next AMD card whatever it is needs to be a very good one. I do hope it is on 20nm.

 

[humbug]

It should arrive just in time to get totally thrashed by the Maxwell Titan and other GM200 cards.

It is going to be a difficult 12 months for AMD.

We don't know that yet, 20nm doubles the amount of transistors on the DIE.

A 290X has 2816 Stream Processors, on the same sort of die size (438mm^2) @ 20nm the 390X could have 5632 Stream Processors, be that as it may, with HBM the 390X could make the 295X2 at its best possible CF scalling look like a 280X in comparison to a 290X. An absolute MONSTER!

Lets wait and see.

In any case its nice to see information about AMD's future plans, even if its not directly from AMD.

 

[Panos]

Worrying if it does feature liquid cooling.

The next AMD card whatever it is needs to be a very good one. I do hope it is on 20nm.

The rumours for months now state that it will have 50% more SP than the 290X.

Of course if it was Nvidia product, there were going to be 100 rumour mill threads praising it.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The rumours for months now state that it will have 50% more SP than the 290X.

Of course if it was Nvidia product, there were going to be 100 rumour mill threads praising it.

Remember everyone...repeat after me(in a Scottish accent)......AMD is doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed...
....doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed I say!!!

 

[almighty15]

It should arrive just in time to get totally thrashed by the Maxwell Titan and other GM200 cards.

It is going to be a difficult 12 months for AMD.

Bit of an arrogant thing to say...

 

[Uncle Petey]

Spoiler

 

[humbug]

Remember everyone...repeat after me(in a Scottish accent)......AMD is doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed...
....doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooomed I say!!!

lol.....

 

[mmj_uk]

That it requires a built in CLC for a single gpu is a bit of an alarm bell for me tbh.

ED: Ok, they say 'allegedly'...

It's an almost certainty given the way they are (or should that be aren't? ) progressing, they've gone that route with their 220W CPU's so it's probably to be expected on their 300W+ graphics cards and it's certainly healthier long term than having a card run at 95C. The trouble is it will bump up manufacturing cost quite a bit at a time when NVidia are becoming better value for money and penny pinchers are AMD's primary customer base.

 

[Gerard]

It should arrive just in time to get totally thrashed by the Maxwell Titan and other GM200 cards.

It is going to be a difficult 12 months for AMD.

Care to loan me that crystal ball you seem to have for the lottery this week?

 

[Rroff]

We don't know that yet, 20nm doubles the amount of transistors on the DIE.

A 290X has 2816 Stream Processors, on the same sort of die size (438mm^2) @ 20nm the 390X could have 5632 Stream Processors, be that as it may, with HBM the 390X could make the 295X2 at its best possible CF scalling look like a 280X in comparison to a 290X. An absolute MONSTER!

Lets wait and see.

In any case its nice to see information about AMD's future plans, even if its not directly from AMD.

Not saying its impossible as architecture changes can completely change the game but there is a reason (actually a few) why you don't typically see SP counts ever increasing to stupidly high numbers as things like "pipeline latency" and other queuing/scheduling issues can reduce performance or cause other complications. Its not by accident that the 9xx cards have reduced SPs compared to 7xx.

20nm over 28nm allows for some fairly big savings on the power/heat front so would be surprised if it needs liquid cooling unless they've utterly failed to master some of the newer power saving techniques like nVidia have utilised recently with more granular control over what parts of the core are running fullspeed for any given operation. Or maybe they have gone for something stupidly high performance who knows.

HBM is a good headline piece but we simply don't need the bandwidth yet - not saying they shouldn't move towards it but realistically its going to be limited in terms of what it brings to the table in regard to actual performance outside of synthetic benchmarks for at least a generation maybe 2.

 

[humbug]

It's an almost certainty given the way they are (or should that be aren't? ) progressing. They've gone that route with their 220W CPU's so it's probably to be expected on their 300W+ graphics cards, it's certainly healthier long term than having a card run at 95C anyway... but it will bump up manufacturing cost quite a bit at a time when NVidia are becoming better value for money and penny pinchers are AMD's primary customer base.

Oh, so we are not just fanbois, now we are also penny pinchers.

Why is it that every other post you write involves some sort of a attack toward AMD users? did an AMD user run over your Cat?

 

[Boomstick777]

HBM + 20nm plz !

 

[almighty15]

Nowt wrong with using all in one cooler for it, will give great temps and low noise out put, and even the cheapest of cases have ample space these days for it too.

 

[almighty15]

It's an almost certainty given the way they are (or should that be aren't? ) progressing, they've gone that route with their 220W CPU's so it's probably to be expected on their 300W+ graphics cards and it's certainly healthier long term than having a card run at 95C. The trouble is it will bump up manufacturing cost quite a bit at a time when NVidia are becoming better value for money and penny pinchers are AMD's primary customer base.

Penny punchers? I prefer the term "People who aren't stupid enough to get shafted by over priced products"

 

[humbug]

HBM is a good headline piece but we simply don't need the bandwidth yet - not saying they shouldn't move towards it but realistically its going to be limited in terms of what it brings to the table in regard to actual performance outside of synthetic benchmarks for at least a generation maybe 2.

4k is increasingly an affordable option these day's, 5K is also growing.

Besides that, higher bandwidth = faster Texture fill = higher performance at pretty much any res.

 

[Kaapstad]

We don't know that yet, 20nm doubles the amount of transistors on the DIE.

A 290X has 2816 Stream Processors, on the same sort of die size (438mm^2) @ 20nm the 390X could have 5632 Stream Processors, be that as it may, with HBM the 390X could make the 295X2 at its best possible CF scalling look like a 280X in comparison to a 290X. An absolute MONSTER!

Lets wait and see.

In any case its nice to see information about AMD's future plans, even if its not directly from AMD.

Bit of an arrogant thing to say...

Care to loan me that crystal ball you seem to have for the lottery this week?

The problem is the GM200 GPUs will also be using 20nm. I made the mistake of underestimating Maxwell on 28nm and it turned a lot better than expected, this trend will only continue to get better @20nm.

Maxwell changes the game and is probably better than anything AMD have got in the pipeline in the short term (we got a hint with Tonga which is no completion to Maxwell). AMD will catch up or even get ahead but it is going to take them at least 12 months.