AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

[Dontrocktheboat]

in one word....terrible

unless you want indoor heater. buy 4080 save $200 in electricity bill in 3 months lol

 

[Dontrocktheboat]

So Gamer's Nexus sums up - high coil whine, power spikes and avoid the reference MBA cards but wait for AIB

So wait for 1,200-1,400 £ mba CARDS,

 

[humbug]

@RavenXXX2 let me guess, W1zzard is recommending the 4080.

MW2 is "unoptimised for Nvidia" So not an AMD strength, an Nvidia failing, a very rare one i'm sure W1zzard would want to stress if prompted...

 

[Firegod]

So Gamer's Nexus sums up - high coil whine, power spikes and avoid the reference MBA cards but wait for AIB

Did the coil whine go away when gaming or was it just in the menus and stuff that it was apparent? My 6700XT whines before it gets into games. Not really an issue. But if people go "ooh coil whine" and have a card outside of a rig in the open, that's a bit ridiculous.

 

[Firegod]

@RavenXXX2 let me guess, W1zzard is recommending the 4080.

MW2 is "unoptimised for Nvidia" So not an AMD strength, an Nvidia failing, a very rare one i'm sure W1zzard would want to stress if prompted...

I was just about to say, so who's fault is it benchmarking a game where Nvidia doesn't do well. It's Nvidia's problem to resolve. lol.

 

[EastCoastHandle]

Hmm,

I was looking to upgrade from a 1080, I was waiting for the AMD 7900 XTX...

I'm not sure how I feel, can someone tell me how I should feel about the performance/price?

I am not sure how you should feel. Remember, this is MBA models. The AIB models with higher power limits will be faster. Not sure how much. At a guess at max OC somewhere between 15%-30% range.
Unless someone with the card can chime in.

But it will come at a higher price. But needless to say the 7900xtx will be a massive upgrade from the 1080 and shouldn't need you to buy a new psu. For starters...

 

[Besty]

I have to say i expected much better from RDNA3 its not even the 2nd best card to be fair.

Unless you play Modern Warfare 2 professionally and its almost 100fps faster than a 4080 and over 50fps faster than a 4090.

The Calisto protocol shows where these RDNA3 cards sit and that's the benchmark for the future as it is a UE5 game. It's slap bang in the middle of a 4080 and a 4090. Which, is where almost everyone was predicting it would be.

 

[varkanoid]

So in a nutshell. 7900 xtx is a 4080 rasta performance, with 3090 RT performance.

Maybe that fine wine AMD drivers will deliver in a years time.

Thats about what I expected RT performance no surprise there seeing as they are a gen behind Nvidia. Faster than a 4080 in some non RT games
Just costs you less, ahem. If there is qty it will sell in droves. Sadly doesnt look like there will be.

 

[humbug]

Not getting the association here with Stockholm syndrome... I'm not sure that means what you think it means. Who's being held hostage?

People are upset, not only because they want AMD to take market share so there's more lively competition, but also and acutely, they want to see prices (all prices) come down to something less than off-the-wall bananas i.e. where we're at now. And there's no price dropping coming with this performance.

I suppose one takeaway is we can revert to throwing AMD's official performance numbers out with the rubbish. Nowhere do I see the up to 60% performance improvement over 6950xt they were purporting.

Edit: to put it in perspective, I was looking to upgrade to 7900xtx had it met the performance (or near it) that AMD was suggesting. A bit nope now.

I think the only way you would be so disappointed is if you were expecting too much to start with, its equal to a 4080 and $200 cheaper, if you can't accept that not a bad place to be then you see AMD as a charity, you have expectations from them that they as a business simply cannot deliver, not if if they want to stay in business for long. Its not AMD's job to to make Nvidia GPU's more affordable.

If you think the 4080 is better then that is what you should buy.

 

[fs123]

Very game dependant.

It barely outpaces my old 3080 in some RT heavy games.

I've got a 3080 and I think RT peformance is fine for a couple of years. AMD is actually getting better RT performance in quite a few games than the 3090 so not sure why you think its bad..

 

[uscool]

Really disappointing was hoping it was gonna be between 4080 and 4090 in raster

Regardless was not buying either anyway unless these were around £750

What a crap generation this seems to be heading at , performance is fine just pricing and can imagine the lower stacks are gonna be even worse

Gonna stick it out with the 3080 which cost £649 should be fine at 1440p hopefully next gen will get worth uplift from the 3080 at around £700-£750

I do hope AMD can keep improving hate to see just Nvidia

As it's new chiplet design hopefully fine wine kicks in with drivers over time

 

[glenimp617]

I think I'll struggle on till next gen. Personally, neither AMD nor Nvidia are fast enough for the price. Tempted, but it's too much for too little IMHO.

 

[Firegod]

Really disappointing was hoping it was gonna be between 4080 and 4090 in raster

Regardless was not buying either anyway unless these were around £750

What a crap generation this seems to be heading at , performance is fine just pricing and can imagine the lower stacks are gonna be even worse

Gonna stick it out with the 3080 which cost £649 should be fine at 1440p hopefully next gen will get worth uplift from the 3080 at around £700-£750

I do hope AMD can keep improving hate to see just Nvidia

As it's new chiplet design hopefully fine wine kicks in with drivers over time

It is between the 4080 and 4090 in Rasta. I'm just watching Gamers Nexus now and looking at the chart. It flip flops between being 2nd and 3rd place (1st obviously being the 4090).

 

[delta0]

Raster was between 4080 and 4090. Rt was moving around to 3090 level to just over 4080 depending on the game. Going from the GN review and that was a 2x8 pin card he had.

 

[uscool]

It is between the 4080 and 4090 in Rasta. I'm just watching Gamers Nexus now and looking at the chart. It flip flops between being 2nd and 3rd place (1st obviously being the 4090).

Just looking at few reviews that give average over number of games and they are pretty much the same just few % in it

 

[Poneros]

How are people calling this a failure? Must be watching different sources I guess.

It mostly beats the RTX 4080 and costs less, has more vram and AMD are known for improving performance with drivers.

'Mostly' is irrelevant. It's about specific games & more importantly performance where it matters the most! If it wins by 10% when fps is already 300 that's a borderline pointless win vs the scenario where XTX is <60 fps & 4080 is >60. Likewise for vram, it was a conversation when it was 8-10 GB vs 16 GB but it's a non-issue when it's 16 GB vs 20-24 GB.

This is my feeling too, no mention of any hardware advances in RDNA3 bar RT improvement, seems they focussed just on getting the hardware/chiplets right.

Pretty much my read seeing the RT vs raster ratios compared to RDNA 2 (almost identical). They decided to keep devaluing their GPU brand just to maintain margins. A poor decision even in a business sense, but alas, what else can we expect from AMD. Post-Vega it's been a very disappointing journey overall despite some positive developments initially.

So the XTX is 4080 performance minus RT for £1000, hands up if you thought £1000 for a 4080 was a good price?

"Good" is too subjective. Definitely higher value in the current market tho.

People are just disappointed that AMDs offering won't be strong enough to force nvidia to drop prices by 30%.

People with no intention of buying an AMD card pretending they care how good or bad they perform.

False. I've bought nothing but Radeon for decades but it's impossible for me to recommend it anymore. The vram advantage with RDNA 2 was enough to attempt a defence, at least below a 3080, but for RDNA 3 vs Lovelace, it's just a complete Nvidia sweep. I simply don't see a single winning point for AMD anymore, outside of uber niche scenarios which are not even worth mentioning because there's like 8 people who would care.

 

[Mr Evil]

How are people calling this a failure? Must be watching different sources I guess.

It mostly beats the RTX 4080 and costs less, has more vram and AMD are known for improving performance with drivers.

More like reading from a different script.

 

[humbug]

How are people calling this a failure? Must be watching different sources I guess.

It mostly beats the RTX 4080 and costs less, has more vram and AMD are known for improving performance with drivers.

People are annoyed at Nvidia but taking it out on AMD because by their measure AMD didn't save the day.

 

[doodah]

How the tables have turned? I thought these cards were all about power efficiency/power per watt advantage over the top end of the 4000 series?

 

[nhornby51743]

Hmm,

I was looking to upgrade from a 1080, I was waiting for the AMD 7900 XTX...

I'm not sure how I feel, can someone tell me how I should feel about the performance/price?

Get a 6900XT