AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

Calin Banc · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:01

fs123 said:
So you must agree that RT performance of a 3090 is inferior and completely useless since the 7900XTX has the same performance.
Either you are ignorant or simply shilling for Nvidia. I suspect it's the latter.

If it were to compete with 3090 last gen, yeah, a 7900xtx vs. 3090 is great. But it doesn't compete with that.

K1LaW8tt5 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:01

It's simple really. Stop buying GPUs that cost more than £1000.

HRL · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:01

Hedge said:
You think they are suddenly flying off shelves?

People have known amd weren't gonna match on RT so they had no intention of buying an AMD card anyway.

Perhaps they were giving AMD the benefit of doubt until the reviews hit?

Harlequin · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:02

So apparantly a £2300 RTX 4090 is exceptional value to some on here.....

Hedge · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:03

HRL said:
Perhaps they were giving AMD the benefit of doubt until the reviews hit?

Here's me thinking people thought it was an overpriced mess of a card. I hadn't realised people were desperate to crack out the wallet to buy a 4080.

teejay73 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:04

Tired9 said:
I see you made a similar desicion, it was very hard to ignore the perf impact at 1440P, same res!

Same, hope it treats you well.

Tbh, I had buyer's remorse when I bought the 6950 - not because it's a poor card obviously, but I had a major bout of FOMO with the 7900 xtx on the horizon. Initially, I had just bought a 6900xt Red devil, but it was DOA, and I'd already bought the EK RD water block and backplate, and then I saw an offer for the 6950 and thought I might as well seeing as I already had the block and backplate which cost over £200. It dawned on me very quickly that I'd have to get a waterblock & backplate for the 7900 xtx - factoring in the total price would have meant shelling out £1300+. At that point, reality kicked in and I came to my senses.

ThunderLicker · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:05

Tired9 said:
For those who care about their wallet, they would have grabbed a 6900 XT here for 650.
I got over RT pretty quickly with my RTX 3070 that could do it very well with DLSS.

I was very tempted by the 6900xt deals as I'm still stuck on a 1080ti, but I just looked at it as I would be paying £650/£700 for a 2 year old, essentially now mid range GPU. The deals for the terrible market we are in weren't bad it just isn't really what I condsider a good deal in general, that should be 7900xt pricing.

ICDP · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:06

Hedge said:
Here's me thinking people thought it was an overpriced mess of a card. I hadn't realised people were desperate to crack out the wallet to buy a 4080.

Yeah, I won't try to claim some were waiting to see what AMD could bring, but the reason 4080s and even 4090s are still in stock is not because of the AMD 7900.

Tired9 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:06

ThunderLicker said:
I was very tempted by the 6900xt deals as I'm still stuck on a 1080ti, but I just looked at it as I would be paying £650/£700 for a 2 year old, essentially now mid range GPU. The deals for the terrible market we are in weren't bad it just isn't really what I condsider a good deal in general, that should be 7900xt pricing.

I do agree with you but I can tell you that this is not going to change any time soon sadly.

HRL · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:07

smeemi said:
All this RT nonsense.. like someone would opt for 60-80fps with RT vs 160-180 without.

You may not, but others might.

As long as 60fps is the minimum then I won’t have a problem with something like Atomic Heart when it releases.

rexehuk · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:08

Harlequin said:
So apparantly a £2300 RTX 4090 is exceptional value to some on here.....

You're clearly not a gamer. You don't need a small family car, or council tax for the year.

You need. A 4090.

But yes it's a bit mad that's the "norm" or so we're led to believe.

ThunderLicker · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:12

Tired9 said:
I do agree with you but I can tell you that this is not going to change any time soon sadly.

No unfortunately not, thankfully I play a lot of indie stuff these days so the 1080ti can just about hang in there still, but when this thing ***** the bed I don't know what the plan is, probably just stop gaming to be honest.

StuartC999 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:13

01001101 said:
I actually really like the reference design tbh.. That and the Asus 7900XTX TUF OC.

Reference one is nice aswell

Joxeon · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:13

ThunderLicker said:
I was very tempted by the 6900xt deals as I'm still stuck on a 1080ti, but I just looked at it as I would be paying £650/£700 for a 2 year old, essentially now mid range GPU. The deals for the terrible market we are in weren't bad it just isn't really what I condsider a good deal in general, that should be 7900xt pricing.

The trouble is with the new cards your now essentially paying 1k+ for a mid range GPU.

If I had to buy a card right now I'd be going used, not going to reward either of these companies until things change.

Woodsta888 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:14

Hedge said:
The issue with Raytracing is that the best example is cyberpunk.. A game that was plagued with bugs and should have been completed by now by anyone who found it remotely interesting. For those who see cyberpunk as having unrealised potential and hope to revisit it, then you might aswell wait a few more generations until its performance is top drawer.

Spending £1600 quid to play cyberpunk and control is pretty hilarious.

You had to spend £1000+ to play FC6. Game reviews today for FC6 - 7900XTX beats the 4090.

Tired9 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:15

Yeah but I can 5K Battlefield 1.

harmattan · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:15

humbug said:
Same question to you as @harmattan do you think AMD just deliberately tried to pull the wool over our eyes? Genuine question.

It's a complicated question. The engineers, I'm sure felt/feel they have a winner, a revolutionary architecture. The C-suite wants to push a narrative that they're going to take market share. At the day, someone needs to make a call and bring marketing back to a rationale and realistic level -- that didn't happen. The narrative that was pushed seems to be one of best case scenarios. It's as if they reverted to .com era optimism with a certain lack of adult oversight.

I would love to be proven wrong and see performance notably improved in short order. But tommorw's optimism doesn't pay the bills today. As it stands, we have one company pushing the pricing envelope past reasonable levels (to put it mildly), and another company that's only towing that line.

01001101 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:19

StuartC999 said:
Reference one is nice aswell

Sapphire Nitro looks pretty sweet as well tbh.

I'm puzzled by that long bit of metal though. Is it a support bracket?

Grim5 · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:21

RavenXXX2 said:
Nvidia CEO is AMDs CEO cousin, it's market manipulation aka price fixing.

They are not cousins, they are 2nd uncle and niece or you can say Jensen is her great uncle

TheRealDeal · 12 Dec 2022 at 20:30

Hedge said:
The issue with Raytracing is that the best example is cyberpunk.. A game that was plagued with bugs and should have been completed by now by anyone who found it remotely interesting. For those who see cyberpunk as having unrealised potential and hope to revisit it, then you might aswell wait a few more generations until its performance is top drawer.

Spending £1600 quid to play cyberpunk and control is pretty hilarious.

I found Cyberpunk to be the biggest let down ever. I played it on Ps5 when it was all good to go. The game play was not to my liking so no amount of graphics meant anything. Farcry 6 was much more to my liking and it was not even a good Farcry but better for me.

As for the 7900xtx i am a bit disappointed but faster in raster, cheaper and only 16% behind in RT compared to a 4080 it's not as bad as some are making out. In RT it's faster than the last gen was in comparison so a step forward. Take away RT which only a few care about and it's a middle of the road gpu release. It does stink of fine wine though as the dual shader units should get more utilized in time.