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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

How could we all possibly forget, it’s pointed out multiple times a day.

AMD/Nvidia are both taking consumers for a ride, but if they’ve got a product that we want, we don’t have much choice other than to buy or not buy.

Has anyone in the UK confirmed the pricing yet for the new AMD cards?
£1050 for reference 7900 xtx (if you can find one), £1100-1200 for AIBs.

Edit: remember that the reference cards are AMD's "get people in the showroom" model, meant to entice you to buy more expensive AIB models. They will be sold in exceedingly small quantities, and in the UK, through resellers.
 
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It depends entirely on clockspeeds for the 7800XT.

Clock those 60 CUs @ 2.8Ghz game clock and you are matching 7900XT shader performance and making up a good chunk of the ROP shortfall.

I would not be surprised if the 7800XT was close to 7900XT performance and say 6950XT + 20%.

That will not happen if the 7800 XT is priced aroung $700 - $750, because then the 7800 XT would be too close in performance to the 7900 XT, while being a lot cheaper.

As it sits right now based on the leaked benchmarks for the 7900 XT, the 7800 XT logically has to be ~20% slower than a 7900 XT. That would put it around 20% - 25% faster than a 6800XT, but at least with better RT performance.

So while the 6900XT deal looks great on paper, I think in the new year a 7800 XT will be available for a slightly better price/perf but with lower power requirements and better RT. Though that only applies if you are upgrading from an AMD 6800XT or lower GPU. For those of us with a 3080 FE it is a marginal improvement for the same cost and hardly worth it.
 
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Pretty sure Lisa Su said that wasn't the case (being related).
 
Again adding more fuel to killing the 80 series GPUs. Based on your numbers the 7800xt is just a 7700xt renamed to 7800xt so it can be sold for a higher price and it's likely the price/perf ratio of the 7900xt/7900xtx is superior, pushing buyers to buy 90 series and not 80 series


I suppose Nvidia and AMD can do what they want, but it's a shock to buyers to see both companies flip the GPU market on its head - everyone is so used to entry level and mid range cards having good value and now it's gone, the value is all at the top of the stack and it's gets worse as you go down
AMD have just reacted to Nvidias pricing and performance tiers by shifting their own lineup up one to make more profits.

Had the 4080 16gb released for $800 then there is no way the 7900XT would have been called a 7900XT and priced at $900, it would have been a 7800XT priced at $700. The shame of it is that now the 7700XT instead of delivering 6950XT performance for $500 is now going to be atleast $650 while the 6600XT is going to be $500 so like with Nvidia everyone that's not buying the top end card is getting screwed this generation.
 
Didn't the leaks for the 7800XT say it would have 12GB VRAM on a 192bit bus. That won't go down well if true seen as the 6800XT at 16GB on a 256bit bus.

Edit: Just seen that the same leaks said Navi 31 will be on a 256bit bus which we now know is false as its 384 and 320bit so I imagine the above is also false.
 
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Didn't the leaks for the 7800XT say it would have 12GB VRAM on a 192bit bus. That won't go down well if true seen as the 6800XT at 16GB on a 256bit bus

Yes the leaks did show that. So AMD are taking the pee with their tiering and the only thing that makes them look good is that Nvidia are taking a dump while taking the pee.
 
£1050 for reference 7900 xtx (if you can find one), £1100-1200 for AIBs.

Edit: remember that the reference cards are AMD's "get people in the showroom" model, meant to entice you to buy more expensive AIB models. They will be sold in exceedingly small quantities, and in the UK, through resellers.
AMD have not sold their 'reference' cards to the UK since Brexit unless they now have a distribution partner in the UK as Nvidia does.
 
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How could we all possibly forget, it’s pointed out multiple times a day.

Pretty simple, there are lots of posts weighing in on an AMD thread talking negatively or trying to spin how much better nvidia are.. or folk commenting who never intend on owning a card other than nvidia, strange eh.

In fact, what card do you own perchance?
 
£1050 for reference 7900 xtx (if you can find one), £1100-1200 for AIBs.

Edit: remember that the reference cards are AMD's "get people in the showroom" model, meant to entice you to buy more expensive AIB models. They will be sold in exceedingly small quantities, and in the UK, through resellers.

Are you sure they’re not fag packet maths?

I await OCUK’s pricing with bated breath!
 
People are making pretty definitive statements based on speculation over a completely unannounced product here. Nothing wrong with speculating but why talk like it's already set in stone?

The statments are logocial conclusions based upon known data.

7900 XTX is ~ 55% faster than a 6950 XT from AMDs own marketing slides (reality maybe slightly slower). Considering it is the same MSRP, this is actually is "perceived" to be a good uplift in price/perf compared to the 4090.
7900 XT is ~ 30% faster than a 6950 XT. So the 7900 XT is 15% slower while only 10% cheaper and as such not the value proposition.

We can see that historically the 6800 was 15% < than a 6800 XT, which was ~15% < than a 6950 XT and apply the same logic. So logically the 7800 XT has to be a smilar 15% - 20% drop in performance from a 7900 XT.

Ergo the 7800 XT will be ~5% - 15% (at best) better than a 6950 XT in raster and RT. Or at best about 30% better than the 6800 XT it will be replacing.
 
As a 3080 owner I would have needed at least similar RT performance and around 40% raster improvement to warrant an upgrade. The 7900XT does deliver that but is overpriced IMHO. AMD have priced it so close to the XTX, that it becomes a paradox card and is clearly what the 7800XT should have been. The 7900 XT needs a price cut to be a viable GPU IMHO.

6900 XT launched at $999
6800 XT launched at $650
The recent screenshots AMD release does show the 7900xt should be a 7800xt imo the difference is far to large to be called a 7900imo.

While I love the look of the 7900xtx I have to be balanced in saying AMD have pulled a Nvidia 4080 12gb with the 7900xt

Will need to wait for reviews but so far AMDs 1st party results suggest that.
 
Pretty simple, there are lots of posts weighing in on an AMD thread talking negatively or trying to spin how much better nvidia are.. or folk commenting who never intend on owning a card other than nvidia, strange eh.

In fact, what card do you own perchance?

Currently, a 4090FE, though I was waiting on AMD to see what they had to offer first before purchasing.

Have owned several AMD GPU’s and currently have a 5950X CPU, I’ve nothing against AMD.

However, I was fortunate enough to get a tax rebate so my 4090 cost me £500, was reluctant to spend £1700 on anything TBH but got tired of waiting.

I hope for everyone’s sake that the UK pricing is good but I’ve a feeling it’s not going to be much less than the Nvidia cards in the end.
 
The recent screenshots AMD release does show the 7900xt should be a 7800xt imo the difference is far to large to be called a 7900imo.

While I love the look of the 7900xtx I have to be balanced in saying AMD have pulled a Nvidia 4080 12gb with the 7900xt

Will need to wait for reviews but so far AMDs 1st party results suggest that.

I would say the 7900 XT raster results are right around where the 4080 16GB sits, if not slightly better. So if we compare price/perf against the 4080 16GB, the 7900 XTX and 7900 XT both look like great value as they are both considerably cheaper.

It's only when we consider the price/perf compared to the 6800 XT that AMD are exposed as taking the pee. Because right now the 7800 XT and the rebranded 4080 12GB will be in the same price/perf tier. Which for a 3080 and 6800 XT owner, looks like very poor upgrade path in both price and performance.
 
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