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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
If AMD does not deliver on the predicted benchmarks then the backlash will be severe! I still remember the "Beast Mode" RX480 calculations.

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For some reason there will be blinkers!! Although the hardware is the generational upgrade, excuses will be etching on foreheads that evade the price. Is the 30% uplift justifying the 50% price hike?
 
sihartley25 said:
Whats the infinity cache? Does it have much impact?
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Infinity cache is just large scale cache, with greater sharing of cache between compute units.

Cache is memory on, or with RDNA3 close, to the GPU die that is fast and low latency. It is where data is stored for current and near-future frames to be rendered, and means the GPU doesn't need to access VRAM for data while a frame is being processed. VRAM is slooooowwww, especially in terms of latency, so needing to grab data from VRAM during a frame will cause stuttering/lower FPS.

What AMD did with RDNA2 was greatly increase cache on the die, which allowed them to reduce the speed of external VRAM memory. It was a smart play, as VRAM (DDR5/DDR5X/DDR6/DDR6X) is expensive and difficult to source, so they increased the GPU die cost but decreased overall BOM cost and made the PCBs simpler.

Adding more cache is easy, but increasing the "hit rate" is HARD! What this means is accurately predicting what data is needed to be cached from VRAM BEFORE you need it! This is where a lot of modern processors and GPUs have made huge advances, by having really clever algorithms that cache data before it is needed.
 
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Shaz12 said:
The way the pricing currently is, the 4080 Ti will fit right between the 4090 and 4080 and will be closer to the 4090 than the 4080. It makes the 4080 pointless. Buying a 4080 is not a good move as it's so apparent they will be launching a far superior Ti for £100 more.
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It won't be a £100 more than the 4080, it will be more.

4080 FE is £1269

4090 FE is £1699

There is a £430 price difference on the FE models and as we know all AIBS are stupid prices at even more and even £2k+ now and even cards for £2400+ now. Just wait for the 4080 models to come out at £1.5k+ and some even close to £2k.

So a 4080ti FE minimum will be £1485 to £1499... so lets be honest 4080ti will be £1500 for FE and £1650 for a rubbish AIB model to average of £1750 for the starting decent model to again £2k+ for a top end model strix etc.

It's all got stupid now, basically they want £2k now for a GPU..
 
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People need to follow the same mottot of game pre-ordering. Don't do it. Don't upgrade from a higher class 30 series if that's what you have and show NV etc that people won't cave to their blatant disregard to reasonable pricing. Jensen even remarked that the days of completive pricing are over- Well we can show that this should not be the case and force them to lower prices by not buying the new cards that are so high priced when they simply should not be.
 
mrk said:
People need to follow the same mottot of game pre-ordering. Don't do it. Don't upgrade from a higher class 30 series if that's what you have and show NV etc that people won't cave to their blatant disregard to reasonable pricing. Jensen even remarked that the days of completive pricing are over- Well we can show that this should not be the case and force them to lower prices by not buying the new cards that are so high priced when they simply should not be.
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There will always be people willing to pay silly moneys just to have the best. But as price goes up this number will get smaller and smaller. Eventually Nvidia will get to a point where they have to go back to the way things were which is charge silly Titan money for top end card, but then the next one down like the 3080 is priced properly.

No chance I am paying a 4 figure sum for a GPU that is for gaming only. Even if 4090 prices were to drop down to £1000 I would not buy it. Only way I would ever pay that amount was say UE 5 games started to come out which were must play games, I would buy the card, play the said games, then sell the card right after that for minimal loss.
 
mrk said:
People need to follow the same mottot of game pre-ordering. Don't do it. Don't upgrade from a higher class 30 series if that's what you have and show NV etc that people won't cave to their blatant disregard to reasonable pricing. Jensen even remarked that the days of completive pricing are over- Well we can show that this should not be the case and force them to lower prices by not buying the new cards that are so high priced when they simply should not be.
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Too many FOMO suckers for this to be a realistic behaviour from PC gamers when it comes to GPU's.
 
Cooper said:
Too many FOMO suckers for this to be a realistic behaviour from PC gamers when it comes to GPU's.
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In my experience a lot of "unusual" types attracted to PC gaming, probably more susceptible to the marketing. I think the mobile phone market has a similar subset of people that are serial upgraders no matter the price. I'm not including the better off people, neither here nor there to them, it's the average earner getting into perpetual debt for it that cause an issue.
 
RBImGuy said:
the 7800xt is likley to be the big winner once its out
superb performance at a decent price point.
($649) or so.
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I was interested in this but considering I have 3080 cant see the uplift being worth it , the 3080 to 7900xtx jump would have been really nice but not paying £1k for a GPU, so guess will be skipping this gen
 
What the worse thing about this, is that last generation was still a lot for a high end AMD dGPU,ie,£1000. They also seem to be totally ignoring the price drops on the AMD RDNA2 dGPUs too.

But as usual Nvidia again made AMD showing off a £1000 dGPU look reasonable. Just like the price hike for the RX690....I meant RX5700XT still made it reasonably priced compared to the RTX2070!

This means,AMD can also get away with pushing up its pricing a bit for their other dGPUs down the range! :(
 
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gpuerrilla said:
As its AMD I wouldn't worry. 85% of folk here will be too put off by drivers and ray tracing to even browse to the page. :p
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10% of
uscool said:
I was interested in this but considering I have 3080 cant see the uplift being worth it , the 3080 to 7900xtx jump would have been really nice but not paying £1k for a GPU, so guess will be skipping this gen
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you dont need to upgrade every generation, i went from a 970 to a 3080, both of these scrub companies have made sure i skip this one for sure
 
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Alt0153 said:
10% of

you dont need to upgrade every generation, i went from a 970 to a 3080, both of these scrub companies have made sure i skip this one for sure
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I know I dont but you know I like playing at max settings, I went from 980ti to 5700xt to 3080 very nice jumps in performance , 3080 will tick along fine at 1440p for sometime :) my monitor is 240hz 1440p but I can live with getting 100 or so fps still will give me great experience instead of paying this hiked up prices
 
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sihartley25 said:
Are there any none AMD benchmarks/ slides. The pc gaming article i read seems to say not yet?

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No, hence a pinch of salt required. If you work on the assumption of ~10% for marketing on AMD you will be in the right ballpark. For Nvidia you need to reduce by ~20% (at least) for more realistic numbers.

So if AMD say 70% faster work to 55 - 60%. If Nvidia say 100% think more like 70%. Remember the 3080 vs 2080 DF "preview" than showed the 3080 bieng twice as fast as the 2080 at 4K. But that was only achieved by saturating the VRAM of the 8GB 2080. Reality was about 60% at best (I know because I replaced my 2080 with a 3080).
 
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