AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

[humbug]

Would this be a fair guess?

6900/6950xt equivalent RDNA3 card, for £600-£700, 250W TDP, 2 8-pin connectors, 750w reccomended PSU.

I'm thinking 7800XT for $750 and ~6950XT, 7800 for $650 and 6900XT.

 

[Darujhistan]

I'm thinking 7800XT for $750 and ~6950XT, 7800 for $650 and 6900XT.

So 7800xt>6950xt - $750

and 780t>6900xt - $650

How about my guesses for TDP/connectors and PSU reccomendations?

 

[Troezar]

I'm thinking 7800XT for $750 and ~6950XT, 7800 for $650 and 6900XT.

Too rich for me. I have other hobbies where gear that price would last 10+ years, admittedly a lower tech!

 

[humbug]

So 7800xt>6950xt - $750

and 780t>6900xt - $650

How about my guesses for TDP/connectors and PSU reccomendations?

I think if the 7900XT is 300 watts i can't see the 7800XT being more than 250 watts.

PSU recommendations are always exaggerated by AMD/Nvidia, who have to assume to PSU you have is crap.

 

[Darujhistan]

i think if the 7900XT is 300 watts i can't see the 7800XT being more than 250 watts.

PSU recommendations are always exaggerated by AMD/Nvidia, who have to assume to PSU you have is crap.

Yeah, I think that's about right. I really don't want to replace a top quality (Seasonic) 750W PSU any time soon. I reckon it would handle a 300W TDP card on my system, stock 5700x, 32 GB RAM + AIO and the usual gubbins.

 

[humbug]

Yeah, I think that's about right. I really don't want to replace a top quality (Seasonic) 750W PSU any time soon. I reckon it would handle a 300W TDP card on my system, stock 5700x, 32 GB RAM + AIO and the usual gubbins.

Easily...

 

[SpellowHouse]

I don't know. I might stretch to a 7900. I just spent my "new gpu budget" on a monitor, so I may miss this generation altogether. I will wait until the reviews come out but one thing I can tell you is that I won't be buying NVIDIA.

 

[Bonse]

I don't know. I might stretch to a 7900. I just spent my "new gpu budget" on a monitor, so I may miss this generation altogether. I will wait until the reviews come out but one thing I can tell you is that I won't be buying NVIDIA.

If you're not having issues i think the next gen will be stonking.

I'm on a 1080ti @ 1440p and it's really showing its age. I hope i can get a XTX day one, i'll be working from home that day

 

[ICDP]

Considering AMD kept the 7900 XTX at the old 6950 XT MSRP and there was a significant gap in price down to 6800XT. I would expect (hope) the 7800XT could be $700 max, with the rest of the lower stack roughly matching the price point of their predecessor. Any more than that and AMD would be offering stagnation in price/perf apart from the top tier.

So adjusted for ~10% inflation:
7800 XT would offer 20-25% faster than 6800 XT for a slightly higher price point.

7800 would offer a similar price/perf increase over the 6800. And so forth down the stack.

So not great price/perf improvements but at least tangible and certainly not stagnation. Having said that it is just a hope rather than a prediction. It’s kind of pathetic that this could be the new gen on gen improvements at the mainstream GPU tiers.

 

[gpuerrilla]

It might also not be that bad as the 6000 series will make way naturally for the 7000 series, and as times before, the prices slide as the gen ages.

nvidia we dont know how much of the ampere stockpile exists and Jensen isnt for dropping the prices as we can see so far..

 

[ICDP]

It might also not be that bad as the 6000 series will make way naturally for the 7000 series, and as times before, the prices slide as the gen ages.

nvidia we dont know how much of the ampere stockpile exists and Jensen isnt for dropping the prices as we can see so far..

Yep, at least AMD look like the 7x00 range are actually coming in at previous gen prices. Though it is clear they have moved the entire stack below the 7900 XTX up one tier.

So instead of AMD giving the usual 40-50% new node increase, we will likely get half that.

The best we can say is, better than Nvidia who have moved their entire range below the 4090 up 2 tiers and increased prices as well.

 

[Grim5]

Yep, at least AMD look like the 7x00 range are actually coming in at previous gen prices. Though it is clear they have moved the entire stack below the 7900 XTX up one tier.

So instead of AMD giving the usual 40-50% new node increase, we will likely get half that.

The best we can say is, better than Nvidia who have moved their entire range below the 4090 up 2 tiers and increased prices as well.

This is roughly what to expect:

Navi 21 to 31: +80% performance
Navi 22 to 32: +60% performance
Navi 23 to 33: +10% performance

Now because AMD is shifting the stack along with Nvidia, the models look like this:

6900xt to 7900xtx: +80% performance
6700xt to 7800xt: +60% performance

What to expect for the the 7700xt, who knows it's likely a cut down Navi 32 with a less spectacular performance improvement from the 6700xt. Things look much worse for the 7600xt and 7500xt. As has happened with Nvidia, the best value is at the top of the stack and value gets worse as you go down

 

[gpuerrilla]

From that information yes this looks about right. What will be interesting is what these vendors will charge for the lower end stacks. At present now most of the fomo buyers and enthusiasts have jumped, the rest of the population wont be buying that top tier which will hopefully trigger that 3090Ti moment.

 

[Zarax]

I'm still waiting some card to take off the top spot from the 1060 in steam, it might be the 3060 from the looks of it but ironically the 1060 itself gained market share last month...

 

[SpudMaster]

This all sounds very doom and gloom to me. Basically if all the predictions are correct, unless your buying top tier your pretty much going to be getting two year old card performance with a new number on the box

 

[Zarax]

This all sounds very doom and gloom to me. Basically if all the predictions are correct, unless your buying top tier your pretty much going to be getting two year old card performance with a new number on the box

What's worse is that in many segments we're getting worse performance per dollar with time...

 

[gpuerrilla]

This all sounds very doom and gloom to me. Basically if all the predictions are correct, unless your buying top tier your pretty much going to be getting two year old card performance with a new number on the box

Most that have had thier ear to the ground for a while will have known this so will have been plucking a sale from the ampere/rdna2 gen and not waited around for next year when these low tiers get replaced. Why wait for a 4070 when you could have had a 6900XT for £650 for a while now. The only time I can see a lower tier being worth the performance and price is when a refresh swings by in the guise of a super but we dont know that far ahead yet so your stuck with top tier and insane prices for the moment.

 

[ICDP]

This all sounds very doom and gloom to me. Basically if all the predictions are correct, unless your buying top tier your pretty much going to be getting two year old card performance with a new number on the box

From what we can see from AMD 7800XT specs it should be about 20-25% faster than a 6800XT. So 10% or so faster than a 6950 XT. So expect at least some improvement in price/perf from AMD across their range.

For those on a 2080 series GPU they could see a very nice increase in raster and a fair increase in RT. For us in 3080 or 6800 series, it will be meh.

Nvidia seem to want to push price/performance levels to lower than the previous gen. The 4080 shows this trend clearly. The 4080 12GB will be released as a 4070 and Nvidia will ask 3080 12GB prices for it, while offering 3090 like performance.

Now if you are a mug this looks like a price/perf increase. I mean 3090 performance for 3080 12GB prices right. This ignores the fact the 4070 should be priced at 3070 prices (adjusted for inflation).

 

[gpuerrilla]

Nvidia seem to want to push price/performance levels to lower than the previous gen. The 4080 shows this trend clearly.. will ask 3080 12GB prices for it, while offering 3090 like performance.

Now if you are a mug this looks like a price/perf increase. I mean 3090 performance for 3080 12GB prices right. This ignores the fact the 4070 should be priced at 3070 prices (adjusted for inflation).

Starting to hit the nail on the head.

While gamers probably wont need it, as some of us have pointed out - you dont get lots of vram, sli but your getting similar performance to a card that has been out two years. It all of course hinges on what resolution you need and the fps to drive it (120, 144 etc).

For people already with 3070/80/90's its not really an attractive move. Not until that price comes down by a hefty amount anyway.

 

[Troezar]

Starting to hit the nail on the head.

While gamers probably wont need it, as some of us have pointed out - you dont get lots of vram, sli but your getting similar performance to a card that has been out two years. It all of course hinges on what resolution you need and the fps to drive it (120, 144 etc).

Best advice I heard was, pick the performance level you want and the price you want to pay then just wait until you can get that.