AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

[TheRealDeal]

If only developers thought of PC like Sony studios do there games i would be a lot more open to buying expensive cards more often as i am sure results would be better. Sad fact is PC is still a massive platform but mainly for games that don't require the horsepower. People will say PC is growing and they are right but mainly in games that require a low to medium end card. Long gone are the days where a 4090 is needed for games that really matter eye candy wise on the pc platform. When i started gaming on PC (2001) it had it's own high end games made for PC only while now it's all cross platform or comes to PC 2-3 years later. The main reason i stopped buying every year or two graphics wise. It's a shame as the master race is now the hand me down race with a few extra settings. Still in for a gpu that's gonna cost me far to much lol. PC till i die but easy to see the truth that PC is now built on easy to run games for a mass market mainly.

 

[glenimp617]

I don't know why anyone expects the 7900xtx to be within £400 even of the the 4090. That is £1699 for the base model compared to the expected £1049 of the 7900xtx.

More to the point I also don't get why you'd buy a 4090 if its still £300 more for very similar performance tbh unless of course RT is your main thing. But I could never justify even £200 more for that. I don't think a single game I play has RT at moment.

another problem, you can't buy a 4090 for £1699. Literally nowhere. I've been on the discord and telegram groups. The best you can do is sub £2,000 if you are VERY lucky, and don't mind what brand you buy. Plus the added cost of a new PSU and 12pin cable.

My gut tells me the 7900XTX will go the same way. They may launch at £999 or £1,099 whatever, but then the etailers will stick their scalper (sorry, supply and demand) tax on. IF by some miracle, you can buy one at RRP it's going to be almost half price

 

[Curlyriff]

another problem, you can't buy a 4090 for £1699. Literally nowhere. I've been on the discord and telegram groups. The best you can do is sub £2,000 if you are VERY lucky, and don't mind what brand you buy. Plus the added cost of a new PSU and 12pin cable.

My gut tells me the 7900XTX will go the same way. They may launch at £999 or £1,099 whatever, but then the etailers will stick their scalper (sorry, supply and demand) tax on. IF by some miracle, you can buy one at RRP it's going to be almost half price

There plenty of 4090 depending on model between £1749 and £1900 but if specifically the FE then yeah. But the £1200 AIB pricing for 7900xtx that is rumoured would mean a £550/45% price increase for RT basically which is mental.

I can see for those that want latest RT performance about £200 being fair enough but otherwise it just such a huge markup.

 

[srekal34]

another problem, you can't buy a 4090 for £1699. Literally nowhere. I've been on the discord and telegram groups. The best you can do is sub £2,000 if you are VERY lucky, and don't mind what brand you buy. Plus the added cost of a new PSU and 12pin cable.

You must be doing something wrong then, there were multiple options to buy 4090 FE based on Telegram alerts, some lasted >15mins so hardly impossible to buy. You also dont need new PSU if you have a decent one. Cable alone is not that expensive(from moddiy for example)

 

[gpuerrilla]

another problem, you can't buy a 4090 for £1699. Literally nowhere. I've been on the discord and telegram groups. The best you can do is sub £2,000 if you are VERY lucky, and don't mind what brand you buy. Plus the added cost of a new PSU and 12pin cable.

This happened a lot through last gen with 3080FE. Most folk were paying way over this for them scalped and on AIB versions but we will never know the average price really paid for them.

 

[glenimp617]

You must be doing something wrong then, there were multiple options to buy 4090 FE based on Telegram alerts, some lasted >15mins so hardly impossible to buy. You also dont need new PSU if you have a decent one. Cable alone is not that expensive(from moddiy for example)

I must be, I can't find anything in stock for £1749 like @Curlyriff mentioned and all the alerts on the groups are listings at silly high prices. I've not seen any FE alerts. Maybe in the wrong group?

 

[Curlyriff]

I think if you compare the cheapest 4090 and cheapest 7900xtx the 7900xtx will still be like 500 cheaper. It's only the premium AIB models where the prices will come closer together

I dont think so they will just move the £500 price point up. I mean if the 7900xtx powercolor red devil's are around £1300 mark as per the atuff atated above that's like trying to find a gigabyte aorus master 4090 for £1800 when they been £2400 and out stock etc. They are another price point again if anything tbh.

 

[srekal34]

I must be, I can't find anything in stock for £1749 like @Curlyriff mentioned and all the alerts on the groups are listings at silly high prices. I've not seen any FE alerts. Maybe in the wrong group?

Join FE PartAlert on Telegram. Worked for me with 3xxx multiple times(3080, 3070, 3090), worked for 4090 as well. Have cc ready at any time and you will eventually get it.

 

[VersionMonkey]

some lasted >15mins

What! They were on sale for a whole FIFTEEN minutes! Wow!

Join FE PartAlert on Telegram. Worked for me with 3xxx multiple times(3080, 3070, 3090), worked for 4090 as well. Have cc ready at any time and you will eventually get it.

You really have stockholm syndrome if you think this is a reasonable way to buy things. Take a step back and think about what you are saying - that a product being in stock for a few minutes at a time every couple of weeks is in any sensible way "available".

The FE price is irrelevant if you can't simply buy one. The AMD reference price will be irrelevant if the MBA cards are not available for that in retailers. The relevant comparison in that case will be AIB to AIB, and that is the most likely outcome.

 

[uscool]

What! They were on sale for a whole FIFTEEN minutes! Wow!



You really have stockholm syndrome if you think this is a reasonable way to buy things. Take a step back and think about what you are saying - that a product being in stock for a few minutes at a time every couple of weeks is in any sensible way "available".

The FE price is irrelevant if you can't simply buy one. The AMD reference price will be irrelevant if the MBA cards are not available for that in retailers. The relevant comparison in that case will be AIB to AIB, and that is the most likely outcome.

its not impossible though sadly it's the situation we are in either be patient for FE or buy AIB for inflated price, and its how I got the 3080 FE £649 when AIB went for £1200+ was never gonna pay that and AMD didnt do UK drops last time when scalping . mining season was in full swing Just set the alert on phone , already had browser logged into retailer site on phone with card details saved so all I had to do is click the link in the alert and go through checkout no need to be on computer or be refreshing all day

still joined to the alert group even though I aint interested in the 40 series and its much easier this time managed to add the 4080/4090 to basket few times they dropped compared to the 3080 its a breeze lol , you just need patience

 

[Calin Banc]

Long gone are the days where a 4090 is needed for games that really matter eye candy wise on the pc platform.

"Eye candy" can be both on image quality itself, but also on performance.
Leaving aside DLSS (where you'd ideally wanna be), you do need something like a 4090 if you want a locked 60fps or above experience at 4k.
With previous gen, having frame rates hovering around 60fps means it will drop below in certain scenarios.

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In Cyberpunk you can't even hit 50fps with previous gen in rasterization.
DL2 is about 60fps.
RDR 2 is around 70 which probably is at the limit.
AC: Valhalla is around 60fps and so on.

Newer games will be even more demanding.

Anyway, consoles will lag even more behind as time goes by.

Buy whatever fits for you, not what others say about a system or another.

 

[Nexus18]

Join FE PartAlert on Telegram. Worked for me with 3xxx multiple times(3080, 3070, 3090), worked for 4090 as well. Have cc ready at any time and you will eventually get it.

Yup, signed up and had one relatively easily, know of a few on here who even managed it when out and about with their phones

Obviously not everyone had the same experience though but at least with nvidia, there was a chance of buying a FE for MSRP unlike AMD in UK, "zero" chance.

 

[Curlyriff]

What! They were on sale for a whole FIFTEEN minutes! Wow!



You really have stockholm syndrome if you think this is a reasonable way to buy things. Take a step back and think about what you are saying - that a product being in stock for a few minutes at a time every couple of weeks is in any sensible way "available".

The FE price is irrelevant if you can't simply buy one. The AMD reference price will be irrelevant if the MBA cards are not available for that in retailers. The relevant comparison in that case will be AIB to AIB, and that is the most likely outcome.

I got an FE 6900xt just fine. The MBA cards have still been available. Low quantity doesn't mean no quantity.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Whilst this alert+credit card autocomplete method - is acceptable for a minority of enthusiasts we are also discussing the general gamer audience too. There are only enough of these deliberately drip fed mrsp stock, which is why when we tried to talk of it last gen it was ignored like we are seeing here again. AIB prices are a better indicator as they also scrape lower prices to shift stocks.

 

[Curlyriff]

Yup, signed up and had one relatively easily, know of a few on here who even managed it when out and about with their phones

Obviously not everyone had the same experience though but at least with nvidia, there was a chance of buying a FE for MSRP unlike AMD in UK, "zero" chance.

I brought a 6900xt at MSRP so zero chance is rubbish and it was off Scan.

 

[srekal34]

What! They were on sale for a whole FIFTEEN minutes! Wow!



You really have stockholm syndrome if you think this is a reasonable way to buy things. Take a step back and think about what you are saying - that a product being in stock for a few minutes at a time every couple of weeks is in any sensible way "available".

The FE price is irrelevant if you can't simply buy one. The AMD reference price will be irrelevant if the MBA cards are not available for that in retailers. The relevant comparison in that case will be AIB to AIB, and that is the most likely outcome.

I am not saying this is reasnable, I am just saying its possible. This is the reality we are living in sadly. I was waiting 11 months for my car delivery, my wife's new car currently has 18 months lead time. Waiting few weeks for a card is not that bad.

 

[Nexus18]

I brought a 6900xt at MSRP so zero chance is rubbish and it was off Scan.

AMDS MSRP of £999 for UK at launch was it?




Also, it's a bit silly always comparing "3rd party" AIB prices, at the end of the day, prices are dictated by a few things but 2 most common things are:

- demand
- stock/supply

As shown with nvidias market share, the majority are still willing to go with nvidia across most of the tiers/price points (that will probably change going forward though, at least where rdna 3 and ada is concerned). The only time prices will be at msrp or drop is when that demand isn't there or/and there is masses of stock.

 

[Darujhistan]

What! They were on sale for a whole FIFTEEN minutes! Wow!



You really have stockholm syndrome if you think this is a reasonable way to buy things. Take a step back and think about what you are saying - that a product being in stock for a few minutes at a time every couple of weeks is in any sensible way "available".

The FE price is irrelevant if you can't simply buy one. The AMD reference price will be irrelevant if the MBA cards are not available for that in retailers. The relevant comparison in that case will be AIB to AIB, and that is the most likely outcome.

Yep absolutely, how easily people are conditioned into thinking having to watch telegram and discords to buy a GPU is acceptable. I'm never doing that, i'd rather go without, because all this is forced scarcity to increase FOMO.

If you can't sell me your product on a time-scale that suits me then I don't want it, imagine running around after a retailer to give them your money?

There's something really ****** up about that IMO.

 

[Hotwired]

The FE pricing and microscopic availability is a marketing tactic to sell the other cards.

Oh you missed out again did you, keep trying, keep trying

Shame you're missing out eh.

This is used in games constantly these days. You can chase your tail doing tedious stuff and with enough time and effort you'll probably get it or. Or you can pay hard cash to skip that trash and guarantee the reward right now.

Nvidia, how you're meant to be played

 

[Nexus18]

Well on this forum, majority appear to own FE according to this poll:

Ampere owners - do you own a FE/reference or AIB model?

Is it true that once it's been added to your basket, you should be able to buy it without needing to worry about speeding through the checkout? That's basically what happened when I got my RTX 3070 FE. EDIT - ok, that's good to know, sounds like you get a bit of time. I do feel you get some...

forums.overclockers.co.uk

I suspect more people will own AIB now given the prices have come back down for AIB models over the last few months.