AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

eeii · 6 Dec 2022 at 22:34

There will be AMD MBA cards sold by overlockers in AIB boxes. AMD have done this for yonks.

Darujhistan · 6 Dec 2022 at 23:04

uscool said:
It's more disappointing not seeing the mid / lower tier sooner where most of the market is

Then they rob you blind at the mid and lower tier. I'm increasingly convinced you are better off just sitting a gen behind and snapping up "bargains" before the go EOL. They have had 2 really good deals on 6900XT's on here, a decent deal on a 6800XT which is not far off a 6900XT anyway, and if you shop around there's some reasonable deals to be had.

Just forget the upcoming gen because the prices for at least the first 18 months of it are ridiculous.

Meddling-Monk · 6 Dec 2022 at 23:11

I'm rather set on the 7000 series cards unfortunately, as it'll more easily fit inside the power budget envelope of my existing PSU. Whilst the 6000 cards could be grabbed cheaper they risk pushing the PSU into shutdown points. Also, potentially 24GB VRAM would be useful in some stuff I do. Now I do recognise my case is more of a fringe one, and if I'm purchasing in general, I'd totally grab a current gen 6000 series instead.

RavenXXX2 · 6 Dec 2022 at 23:40

Gerard · 6 Dec 2022 at 23:58

Frenzy said:
Wow. I didn't know that, that's disappointing

Everyone knows there will be a 7950 at some point, but that's not the way amd or nvidia play the game, they position a card as being their top end, wait a while then produce a faster offering (that's usually not really that much faster, 10-15% or thereabouts). Been that way for a while now, more so on the part of nvidia as amd didn't have the resources to play that game much until just recently..

gpuerrilla · 7 Dec 2022 at 08:30

Judging by last gen it took ages for the 6950 to hit. Unfortunately that is about the time they manage to squeeze more from the design and get their true high end card out, much slower than nvidia on that. The reason this is welcome is it normally knocks the prices of the regular x900 further down.

ZXSpekky48k · 7 Dec 2022 at 08:33

Unless they lead to a reduction in prices the xx50s tend to be of the squeezing last gasp out of card range kind of releases too late to really get anyone excited (unless as with the 6xxx series the non 50s were barely ever in stock and if they were they priced £200 above the nvidia equivalent)

Joxeon · 7 Dec 2022 at 11:18

It's hard to get excited when AMDs 900XT only matches Nvidias ##80 in raster especially when Nvidias 80 is really a 70 and should be priced no more than £650.

Zarax · 7 Dec 2022 at 11:24

Joxeon said:
It's hard to get excited when AMDs 900XT only matches Nvidias ##80 in raster especially when Nvidias 80 is really a 70 and should be priced no more than £650.

Even current AMD cards are about $100 overpriced for what they give, this is after all the holiday discounts... I won't name Nvidia because honestly they are like Apple, a toy for the rich...

wookiee87 · 7 Dec 2022 at 11:25

few more sneak peaks at upcomming cards

ASRock preps liquid-cooled Radeon RX 7900 XTX AQUA graphics card - VideoCardz.com

AMD Radeon 7900 XTX GPU with water cooling The ultra-premium ASRock liquid-cooled series are now coming to GPUs. ASRock RX 7900 XTX Aqua OC is the first graphics card based on RDNA3 architecture to officially get liquid cooling. This is a premium model designed for existing cooling loops, and...

videocardz.com

XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX and 7900 XT Merc 310 GPUs have been pictured - VideoCardz.com

XFX Speedster RDNA3 series XFX playing safe by using very similar design to RX 6000 series. The company’s first custom cards for Radeon 7000 series have just been leaked by @momomo_us. This is the newest iteration of the fan-favorite triple-fan design with sleek black and silver cooling...

videocardz.com

w00dy85 · 7 Dec 2022 at 11:52

wookiee87 said:
few more sneak peaks at upcomming cards

XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX and 7900 XT Merc 310 GPUs have been pictured - VideoCardz.com

XFX Speedster RDNA3 series XFX playing safe by using very similar design to RX 6000 series. The company’s first custom cards for Radeon 7000 series have just been leaked by @momomo_us. This is the newest iteration of the fan-favorite triple-fan design with sleek black and silver cooling...

videocardz.com

I like this card, my 6800xt Merc has been a fantastic card.

Is the 7900xt the replacement for a 6800xt??

harmattan · 7 Dec 2022 at 12:50

w00dy85 said:
I like this card, my 6800xt Merc has been a fantastic card.

Is the 7900xt the replacement for a 6800xt??

Sort of, yes and no. Yes in that it's a cut-down top-end chip, second from the top (at least initially). No in that its price is a lot closer to it's bigger brother than the 6800xt was to 6900xt. And there will almost certainly be a 7800xt based on a full-fat Navi 31, or a further cut-down Navi 33.

On a somewhat related note, any word on how AMD is disabling chiplets to cut down their chip versions i.e. will it be done physically or through software? Likely optimistic, but has there been any hypothosis of rx290/6800/465 GTX vanilla unmasking magic?

w00dy85 · 7 Dec 2022 at 12:58

harmattan said:
Sort of, yes and no. Yes in that it's a cut-down top-end chip, second from the top (at least initially). No in that its price is a lot closer to it's bigger brother than the 6800xt was to 6900xt. And there will almost certainly be a 7800xt based on a full-fat Navi 31, or a further cut-down Navi 33.

Thanks for this

So basically AMD have created a new tier, a bit like it's CPU range.

gpuerrilla · 7 Dec 2022 at 12:59

Zarax said:
Even current AMD cards are about $100 overpriced for what they give, this is after all the holiday discounts... I won't name Nvidia because honestly they are like Apple, a toy for the rich...

In fairness it depends on which tier your after. If you watch the lower end stuff a guy compared the 3060 with a 6700XT that he got for the same price. It destroyed it and shows the Apple part you mentioned can be squat all in some cases. You are simply being mugged for a brand name at that point.

Zarax · 7 Dec 2022 at 13:33

gpuerrilla said:
In fairness it depends on which tier your after. If you watch the lower end stuff a guy compared the 3060 with a 6700XT that he got for the same price. It destroyed it and shows the Apple part you mentioned can be squat all in some cases. You are simply being mugged for a brand name at that point.

6700xt is definitely one tier above the 3060, so it's not a fair comparison.

TBH on AMD land the 6600 and XT are about 50€ too much, the cards above at least 100€ over what they should be.

Darujhistan · 7 Dec 2022 at 14:03

Zarax said:
6700xt is definitely one tier above the 3060, so it's not a fair comparison.

TBH on AMD land the 6600 and XT are about 50€ too much, the cards above at least 100€ over what they should be.

Yeah I think if you compare the 6700XT to 3060ti and 3070 then that's fairer.

RBImGuy · 7 Dec 2022 at 14:10

harmattan said:
Sort of, yes and no. Yes in that it's a cut-down top-end chip, second from the top (at least initially). No in that its price is a lot closer to it's bigger brother than the 6800xt was to 6900xt. And there will almost certainly be a 7800xt based on a full-fat Navi 31, or a further cut-down Navi 33.

On a somewhat related note, any word on how AMD is disabling chiplets to cut down their chip versions i.e. will it be done physically or through software? Likely optimistic, but has there been any hypothosis of rx290/6800/465 GTX vanilla unmasking magic?

7800xt and 7700xt are n32.
N33 are whatever they decide.

gpuerrilla · 7 Dec 2022 at 14:47

Zarax said:
6700xt is definitely one tier above the 3060, so it's not a fair comparison.

TBH on AMD land the 6600 and XT are about 50€ too much, the cards above at least 100€ over what they should be.

The point was you said AMD are $100 overpriced when this clearly confirmed they are not..

Darujhistan said:
Yeah I think if you compare the 6700XT to 3060ti and 3070 then that's fairer.

See point I was quoting. Both cards were the same price he was referring to prices not fair comparisons, just saying!

Joxeon · 7 Dec 2022 at 16:23

w00dy85 said:
Thanks for this

So basically AMD have created a new tier, a bit like it's CPU range.

What AMD have done is change the names 6900XT > 7900XTX and 6800XT > 7900XT.

A 7800XT wouldn't have looked good with a price jump from $650 > $900 but with Nvidia's joke shop pricing on the 4080 AMD have taken the opportunity to get creative with the naming and make a bit more dosh also.

You can bet your life that had the 4080 released for $750 then the 7900XT would have been called a 7800XT and released for $700.

We are at a bit of a crossroads with cards further down the stack now so do AMD make a 7800XT on N31 with 72 or more CU's or are they planning to use a weaksauce N32 die with just 60 CU's which would only deliver +15-20% more performance than a 6800XT roughly matching Nvidias poor looking 4070ti.

Mr Evil · 7 Dec 2022 at 17:20

wookiee87 said:
few more sneak peaks at upcomming cards

ASRock preps liquid-cooled Radeon RX 7900 XTX AQUA graphics card - VideoCardz.com

AMD Radeon 7900 XTX GPU with water cooling The ultra-premium ASRock liquid-cooled series are now coming to GPUs. ASRock RX 7900 XTX Aqua OC is the first graphics card based on RDNA3 architecture to officially get liquid cooling. This is a premium model designed for existing cooling loops, and...

videocardz.com

XFX Radeon RX 7900 XTX and 7900 XT Merc 310 GPUs have been pictured - VideoCardz.com

XFX Speedster RDNA3 series XFX playing safe by using very similar design to RX 6000 series. The company’s first custom cards for Radeon 7000 series have just been leaked by @momomo_us. This is the newest iteration of the fan-favorite triple-fan design with sleek black and silver cooling...

videocardz.com

The XFX card is interesting because it looks like the backplate is designed to function as a heatsink instead of just being decorative like it is on most cards. The silver colour would go nicely in my case too. Have to wait and see how much it costs relative to the reference design.