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AMD RDNA3 unveiling event

Hmm, I don't remember 1080ti cards being that pricey - I picked mine up for around £700 a couple of months after release. Still using it now but hoping to pick up a new AMD card depending on price.

But they were

I scrolled back to the forums where Gibbo posted some good deals on the 1000 series cards


In that thread there's people talking abou the strix selling for £1100 there was extreme demand and low supply and the mark up was insane. I got my Strix on a forum deal for £750 but before that they were selling for well over £1000 as where many other cards.

Yes some people were lucky and got them early for MSRP but for most of the time they were selling well over the MRSP i didn't get mine until 2018 2 YEARS AFTER LAUNCH and even then I still paid £750.

After the initial launch it took well over a year for them to come to MSRP.

People seem to compare MSRPs to MSRPs which while a fair comparrison, comparing to what they actually sold for then and now is more accuarte.

2017 - 1080ti selling for £1100
2022 - 4080 selling for £1180

I mean it's not that far off, like ive been saying the entire time people have paid insane prices for so long they have just become official prices from Nvidia rather than supply/demand mark ups.

Don't get me wrong i think the MRSPs are insane and the 4080 was frankly DOA thanks to how much better the 4090 is and how much cheaper the 7900s are expected to be.

But Nvidia 80 class GPUs have been over a grand for over 6 years and over 4 generations regardless of what the "MSRP" says.

That's not me defending those prices btw.
 
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I don’t think the 1080ti is a good comparison really, because it was essentially a Titan/90 class card in terms of performance. Check prices of the 1080 instead. That’s a more comparable product to a 4080 in terms of positioning.
 
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I don’t think the 1080ti is a good comparison really, because it was essentially a Titan/90 class card in terms of performance. Check prices of the 1080 instead. That’s a more comparable product to a 4080 in terms of positioning.

The 1000 series had it's own Titan card, so it's not fair to tall the 1080ti a titan when they had titans in that generation. I can't remember what model it was now it's too long ago, but the 1000 series titan would be the 4090 equivalent.

It's difficult to say how much 1080 (non ti) would have been selling for back then i can't be bothered to search through 6 years of forum usage. But if the 1080tis were around the £1000-1100 range i'd expect the 1080s to be around the £800-£900 range.
 

First AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX/7900 XT 3DMark TimeSpy/FireStrike scores are in​



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First AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX/7900 XT 3DMark TimeSpy/FireStrike scores are in​



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:eek:

I am more impressed by how much performance the 6800 and 6900 cards have gained since launch, obviously 3D Mark somewhat favours AMD hardware but a 6800 XT beating the 3090 and below is impressive, considering we sell 6800 XT's from £599. :)

Also shows what an absolute monster performer the 4090 is! :eek:
 
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I am more impressed by how much performance the 6800 and 6900 cards have gained since launch, obviously 3D Mark somewhat favours AMD hardware but a 6800 XT beating the 3090 and below is impressive, considering we sell 6800 XT's from £599. :)
Just shows how good AMD drivers are as they mature doesn't it. :) I like the look of the new cards more and more. For me, I always said I wasn't comparing these to any Nvidia equivalent. For me it was always, how well do they perform vs previous AMD generation - remembering I only have a 6700XT which works great at 1440P currently. These are looking good to me and I'd be happy with either. Perhaps @Gibbo you can wangle a discount code for forum members haha.
 
Looking at them time spy scores the 7900xtx is not 50% faster than the 6950xtx in extreme 4k 10644 against 7900xtx 13729 more like a 30% improvment, but a long way behind the 4090 at 19398 even the 4080 beats it. Not great for AMD but the 4090 is a monster performer.
 

First AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX/7900 XT 3DMark TimeSpy/FireStrike scores are in​



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The 7900xtx is such a confusing card, miles ahead in Fire Strike, but comfortably below the 4080 in 1440p.
We really need to see some gaming benchmarks because these tests are not really telling us anything.
I Expexted the 7900xtx to be within 10-15% of the 4090 based on AMDs claims, looking like it's going to be far closer to the 4080 now.

It's rather annoying as I expected the 7900xt to be slightly better than a 4080, with the XTX being well ahead but it seems the gap between the XT and XTX is lower than I expected thus the difference between the 3 cards will be far closer than i expected.

The Xtreme 4k benchmark the 4080 wins, now if the 4080 keeps getting lower in price and the 7900xtx ends up being more than we expect, i could end up getting a 4080 now, god i never thought i would say that.

Man I hope they leek some gaming benchmarks so we can get a better impression as AMD do often perform better in games than these sorts of tests.

It does look like this will come down to pricing alone now though, with whatever is cheaper out of the 4080-7900xtx being the winner. Which will depend on how much the AIBs mark up their cards for UK/EU etc.

The 7900xt seems like a better value card now than i expected too, being within spitting distance of the 4080 but at 300-400 cheaper.

Saying that there's a real big gap between the 7900xtx and the 4090 that AIBs maybe able to push thanks to a 3x8pin and some good overclocks, ooo Monday is going to be exciting.
 
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I rather have the 4080 at £1099, on par in dx 11/12 raster but superior RT perf and DLSS advantage, seems like a repeat of rdna 2 and ampere all over again :p

Of course drivers could improve it but I suspect there are going to be quite a few issues with the chiplet design, only natural given first time with new tech and there will be work to be done by not just amd but also developers of games etc. to get the best from it, essentially much like crossfire/sli required good support from both amd/nvidia and developers. Problem is how long will it take for amd/developers to iron out the kinks and get the best from this new design.....

That and of course, just benchmarks, which doesn't translate that well in games i.e. a 6800xt competes with a 3080 in games and not a 3090/ti :cry:
 
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I rather have the 4080 at £1099, on par in dx 11/12 raster but superior RT perf and DLSS advantage.

Of course drivers could improve it but I suspect there are going to be quite a few issues with the chiplet design, only natural given first time with new tech and there will be work to be done by not just amd but also developers of games etc. to get the best from it, essentially much like crossfire/sli required good support from both amd/nvidia and developers. Problem is how long will it take for amd/developers to iron out the kinks and get the best from this new design.....

That and of course, just benchmarks, which doesn't translate that well in games i.e. a 6800xt competes with a 3080 in games and not a 3090/ti :cry:

This is now my thinking too, while i'm not bothered by RT if the cards are as close as that and roughly the same price i might as well get it. It doesn't make sense to buy a card for the same price with the same level of rasta peformance but worse RT.

The driver aging like fine wine while a valid argument, you can also flip it and say Nvidia are better at getting more performance out of their cards from day one.

I've gone from pretty much going for 7900xtx to being in limbo after the last few leeks.

We will see come Monday though.
 
This is now my thinking too, while i'm not bothered by RT if the cards are as close as that and roughly the same price i might as well get it. It doesn't make sense to buy a card for the same price with the same level of rasta peformance but worse RT.

The driver aging like fine wine while a valid argument, you can also flip it and say Nvidia are better at getting more performance out of their cards from day one.

I've gone from pretty much going for 7900xtx to being in limbo after the last few leeks.

We will see come Monday though.

Exactly what I said for a while when it came to the 6800xt and 3080 :p Especially when a 6800xt was going to cost more than a 3080 FE, paying more for less :cry:

4080/7900xtx still not for me at £1+k, ideally want 4090 levels of perf. now, that and I'm still expecting prices to drop come next year.
 
Exactly what I said for a while when it came to the 6800xt and 3080 :p Especially when a 6800xt was going to cost more than a 3080 FE, paying more for less :cry:

4080/7900xtx still not for me at £1+k, ideally want 4090 levels of perf. now, that and I'm still expecting prices to drop come next year.

Honestly i'm more tempted by a 6900xt after these leeks.

Hovering over Gibbos deal lmao


For you though the issue is you have a 3080, so the value on the new gen just isn't there for the performance you already get, for me an upgrade from a 1080ti they look attractive, just less attractive thanks to the price of the previous gen!
 
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Have to say i was all for the 7900xtx but after seeing them scores, i will have a re think. I didn't think it would beat the 4090 but did think it would be well in front of the 4080, infact thought it would be smack in the middle of 4080 and 4090 performance.
I will not be rushing to purchase the 7900xtx any more for sure.
 
Have to say i was all for the 7900xtx but after seeing them scores, i will have a re think. I didn't think it would beat the 4090 but did think it would be well in front of the 4080, infact thought it would be smack in the middle of 4080 and 4090 performance.
I will not be rushing to purchase the 7900xtx any more for sure.

That's exactly where i thought it would sit .Then the 7900xt just slightly ahead of the 4080/trading blows.

Underwhelmed would be my current feelings based on the leeks anyway.
 
But they were

I scrolled back to the forums where Gibbo posted some good deals on the 1000 series cards


In that thread there's people talking abou the strix selling for £1100 there was extreme demand and low supply and the mark up was insane. I got my Strix on a forum deal for £750 but before that they were selling for well over £1000 as where many other cards.

Yes some people were lucky and got them early for MSRP but for most of the time they were selling well over the MRSP i didn't get mine until 2018 2 YEARS AFTER LAUNCH and even then I still paid £750.

After the initial launch it took well over a year for them to come to MSRP.

People seem to compare MSRPs to MSRPs which while a fair comparrison, comparing to what they actually sold for then and now is more accuarte.

2017 - 1080ti selling for £1100
2022 - 4080 selling for £1180

I mean it's not that far off, like ive been saying the entire time people have paid insane prices for so long they have just become official prices from Nvidia rather than supply/demand mark ups.

Don't get me wrong i think the MRSPs are insane and the 4080 was frankly DOA thanks to how much better the 4090 is and how much cheaper the 7900s are expected to be.

But Nvidia 80 class GPUs have been over a grand for over 6 years and over 4 generations regardless of what the "MSRP" says.

That's not me defending those prices btw.
1080ti was a 102 class die less cut down than even the 4090, the 4080 on the other hand is more representative of a 1070.
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