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AMD reduce prices before launch

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https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amd-confirms-radeon-5700-series-price-cuts-two-days-before-launch/

Just caught this, couldnt see any updates here. If already posted please delete.

Strange behaviour from AMD, but at least consumers benefit from the intensing price competition.


The new pricing:
  • Radeon RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary Edition—$449 (down from $499)
  • Radeon RX 5700 XT—$399 (down from $449)
  • Radeon RX 5700—$349 (down from $379)
Waiting to see UK adjustment.
 
I don't think it's strange behaviour.
The supers forced them to do it.
I disagree with the interpretation of the "Supers forced them to do it", but rather it has been the plan all along.

AMD most likely has pretty much anticipated Nvidia's move all along, as there's a long track record of AMD releasing cards or establishing footing at within the price gap between Nvidia's offering and only to have Nvidia to release a card like 1070Ti to in attempt the ruin their parade. AMD may not be genius, but they certainly ain't complete moron that would fall for the same old trick over and over again. This is why I believe the initially rumour pricing of the Navi deliberately spread to be higher to throw Nvidia off, so that after Nvidia done with announcing their T̶i̶ Super cards, they can put the Navi at the true price segment that they have already planned to be at all along, rather than playing Nvidia's game on their turf. And as a result, Nvidia now looks REALLY bad with the 2060 6B vs the 5700 and the 2060 T̶i̶ Super against the 5700XT.

AMD knew their Navi cards didn't have the performance to compete against Nvidia's cards that are based on the TU104 cards (2070S and 2080), so the are exploiting Nvidia's nature/fondness of being stingy and milking the consumer with their lower tier TI106 based cards (2060, 2060S, 2070), and target that mid-range market segment instead. It's almost like AMD has taken a page out of Sun Tsu's Art of War:

"If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle."

AMD does not have an army as large as Nvidia, and their strongest warriors (graphic cards) ain't as powerful as Nvidia's stronger and strongest, so they have to pick their fights and choose their battles wisely.
 
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Based on the new pricing, the 5700 would probably end-up at around £330 and the 5700XT be available at around £375-£400. So what's gonna happen is if people can afford £500, then the TU104 based 2070S would be a no-brainer; but for people that only got a budget of between £300-£400, it would be:

At £330 the 5700 (possibly faster than the 2060S and on par with 2070)) vs TU106 based 2060 (a card that's only on par with 1070 with 2GB less vram)

At £380~£400: 5700XT (a card that's faster than 2070 by up to 10%) vs TU106 based 2060S (a card that's slower than the 2070).

Sure Nvidia could always react by slashing price, but not sure if they would do so as it might hurt their pride and admitting defeat in their latest game of chess, with them looking like tool for trying to pull a quick one on AMD but instead got the carpet pulled from under them.
 
I reckon they got wind of the super not that it was unpredictable, and had the counter in place.

I hope they have decent margin left over. Need a profitable Radeon division.

Doubt they made any money on Vega. Polaris probably made a bit.
 
I'm happy for the war to continue, slashing prices is welcome after have so many iterations of prices only going up.

A quality card that has all the modern features/gimmicks with a little headroom for under £300 is where the sweet spot needs to be. By all means offer a high end and price it accordingly.

Agreed.
What this does now is only good for us all. If nvidia needs to react they will so by also slashing prices.
It's win, win, win.
 
They wont be making much but having the consoles sewn up might be giving them time to brew something ahead.

Of course they will be making money. The 7nm die is much smaller than the previous chips so costs less and the midrange gpu's were only around ££250-300 in the GTX970/R390 days. They obviously learnt from the past and knew Nvida will counter them wherever they had set the price. They could have priced lower as was initially expected but would have been in a difficult place now if Nvidia had matched their lower pricing.
 
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