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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

LtMatt said:
Some eagle eyed users have caught Jufes out, running 4800Mhz JDEC on the 9800X3D.

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He really is pathetic, and there is no way the results can ever be trusted due to the conflict of interest.

Jufes makes money by selling subscriptions to his discord, where he claims to offer helpful advice for overclockers, as well as he sells pre binned Intel CPUs, pre binned RAM for Intel boards and offers Intel overclocking services. If Jufes comes out and says this stock AMD chip is suddenly better than anything you can do on Intel, then he completely loses his income from his pseudo scam services. It's like going to a BMW dealership asking them to review the newest Mercedes, if he says yeah Mercedes is better and you should buy it, then he loses all his income
 
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Re: what @Grim5 said, he is of course right, he's built his livelihood around Intel winning so now that they aren't he need's to manipulate and lie to his audience.

I have no sympathy for him, its a really bad idea to make yourself financially reliant on one product from one company, now he's desperate, he buys trays of Intel CPU's, probably at a hefty wink wink discount, bins them himself and probably sells most if not all of them as a tier of bins at a huge markup, few if any of them will actually not make it in to his marked up binning tier ratio, that tier is probably by how much he claims you can overclock them, this sort of thing is not uncommon with people generating an income off the back of Intel like this and its mostly a scam, i say mostly because for the top 30% of these bins you are buying something that you're unlikely to get via a random normal purchase so if that's what you're looking for it might be worth you paying the inflated price, but the rest of it, he's not putting those on Ebay as used chips, no... he sells them all as binned lower tier.

If Intel aren't winning he doesn't have a product, no one is going to pay £800 for his top binned 14900KS if its still slower than a retail CPU from OCUK costing half as much, so that can't happen in anything he publishes.
 
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