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AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

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Cdog said:
Yeah I thought I'd seek exact info as my order was at 14:10 - right in the danger zone!
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You will not get any extra info from CS I am afraid, I speak directly to AMD / Distributors and I post that info here immediately even before Sales / CS are told, as such they cannot provide any extra detail or clarity other than what I have posted here. :)
 
Joxeon said:
Only an idiot would pay those prices when you can pick a 7800X3D for £400 new.
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It depends on the reasons/circumstances. Scalpers are actually less to blame this time because it was a customs issue rather than lack of supply/scalpers. AMD sent plenty of stock, but it’s all held up in customs.

If someone manages to acquire a piece and decides to sell it for profit? Good on them. Nobody is forced to buy it, and it’s a question of time vs money. Wait weeks or pay an extra £150-£300? That’s a choice the individual can make and depends how impatient they are.

To be perfectly honest, I messed up due to impatience. I could have ordered one at around 2:01pm yesterday from here, but wasn’t sure of the waiting time, and so rolled the dice on there being stock elsewhere. I made a mistake. I found somewhere ‘In stock’ and paid £500 (£50 extra) on the assumption it was ready to go. Instead, I got an email saying it would be 15th. So, I lost £50, and will wait the same time, and maybe longer. Was very naughty of the retailer to have it ‘in stock’ when it wasn’t to be fair, but it’s still on me ultimately.

Those are the choices people have to make. I’m not rich at all, but am very impatient with new gear, and always have been. I’m more than willing to pay an extra £50 to get something next day if it means I don’t have to wait weeks. Others aren’t. Neither is right or wrong.
 
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The main issue with scalpers is that quite often, they're a noticeable factor in the scarce supply in the first place. This is more prominent in the past (and led to many shops only allowing one or two items per customer), but still.

On an entirely different note, i did get my order in at 14:01, so i should be getting mine soon - if not, it is what it is, i'm missing an important component anyway. That would be "literally everything else". Does anyone have any idea when ASrocks X870E Nova is becoming available again?
 
Gibbo said:
UPDATE:

Wave 1 Stock: Due next week and sold out around 14:10 - 14:15 if you ordered before 14:15 you should have your CPU next week.
Wave 2 Stock: Due in about two weeks time, sold out around 14:45, if you ordered before 14:45 you should have your CPU this month.
Wave 3 Stock: Due in December, anyone who placed an order after 15:00 don't expect your CPU until December.

We will endeavour to push extremely hard to get stock in as soon as possible, as I say we have 10,000 units on back order, we have now pre sold over 1200 units.
Anyone placing an order now (15:30 onwards on November 7th) do not expect to receive your 9800X3D until December. We are pushing AMD very hard and are keeping them well informed of our pre-order totals.

We have limited sales to 1pc per customer!
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Oh my, such demand......

Then again you must have gone / going through something similar for the recently released Intel Core Ultra 9 285k.?

Did you need to limit those also to 1pc per customer.?




Maybe not........
 
g67575 said:
Something doesn’t add up in your comment, unless I’ve missed something. If GamerNexus is testing on 1080p low, you would have thought the other CPUs wouldn’t struggle in games like Starfield. But they do, the 1% lows are below 60.

Turning up to the Ultra preset isn’t going to magically improve the framerate.

I tried Starfield a while ago, it’s very heavy on the CPU, my 7700X was dipping a bit below 60 in some scenes, regardless of settings (maxing out all 8 cores sometimes, which I’ve never seen in any other game). Don’t know if they ever improved the framerate in busy scenes, but it was definitely still playable.

Based on those screenshots, I’d say that the GamerNexus testing was more thorough / intensive.
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It doesn't matter if you don't know why Starfield does that. But it does reinforce that reporting tests at a resolution and setting that will be used is important.

I propose that all the reviewers are correct and so is my observation of minimums increasing as you increase graphics in Starfield (and note that averages decrease so it's not simply better at higher detail).

Lets lay it out with more evidence:

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None of these reviewers are Who?s

1080p Low we have GamersNexus with the highest averages and the lowest minimums
1080p High we have Paul with middle averages and middle minimums
1080p Ultra we have Techspot, Toms and HuB with lowest averages and highest minimums and they're very similar to each other

GamersNexus fits right into the trend.

On double checking what I'm posting, Hardware Unboxed's numbers aren't just similar but identical to Toms Hardware. I'm just falling over mysteries here.
 
matty007 said:
If someone manages to acquire a piece and decides to sell it for profit? Good on them. Nobody is forced to buy it, and it’s a question of time vs money. Wait weeks or pay an extra £150-£300? That’s a choice the individual can make and depends how impatient they are.
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Then AMD sees people paying more and decides next time around to charge £600 right out the gate instead. Scalpers are bad for everyone regardless of whether or not you interact with them, just look at what’s happened to the GPU market.
 
My first sample arrived. SP112, possible indication of not the strongest cores. That said, appears to have a nice strong IMC. 8300C34 low VDD tune right off the bat looking good.



Excuse the finger print. :p

I did some benchmarks on Cyber and FC6 on my 9950X before I pulled it out last night, so will have something to compare to.
 
Joxeon said:
Then AMD sees people paying more and decides next time around to charge £600 right out the gate instead. Scalpers are bad for everyone regardless of whether or not you interact with themat what’s happened to the GPU market.
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The premise of scalpers overall is very shady, yes. Despite being very impatient as said, I’ve never ordered from one, and never will.

Like I said though, I’m just putting it out there that this particular situation isn’t due to scalpers though, and is almost entirely due to customs issues (thanks Brexit..). No doubt that there were/are scalpers for this CPU, but judging by the amount of stock AMD actually sent, availability wouldn’t of been much of an issue if all the retailers actually got any of their stock delivered.

We can also look at the PS5 Pro situation. should have been a scalpers heaven but wasn’t because Sony actually sent enough stock..

Not defending scalpers at all, but they’re almost entirely enabled/caused by the manufacturer not sending enough stock in the first place.
 
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Craig_d1 said:
A lot of people don't work in media etc the 9800x3d is comparable to 12900k for productivity from what I've seen. I work infinancial, my wife works in a school. I'm running a 7800x3d and when work from home, running reuters, bloomberg, 3 trading platforms and 8 or 9 spreadsheets, one with masive macro's, as well as several chat groups(whatsaap/icechat.bbmg), outlok etc. 7800x3d handles it but 9800x3d will do it better(can sometimes get a slight pause when macro refresh, but get that o the 14700k at work also). My wife is a finance manager and uses my 5800x build or laptop with a 7735u in it for her work no problem
watching yt for productivity is very squewed, as they all rave about how quickly they can do their vid encoding and how much time it saves them etc...really, and that helps me and the millions that work in city and offices around the country...9800x3d more than enough for office work and a no brainer for gaming, so if you can afford it, why wouldn't you get it..wfh during day no problem, and gaming monster in evening(gpu dependent of course)
busy at work and missed the boat yesterday. Son's 18th in 3 weeks. Was going to get the 9800x3d and shove it in my machine (see if i notice a diff for work) and build him a pc around the 7800x3d but never mind.
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Well yeah for that kind of work, any modern system will do the job no issues, I'd say Mac OS would be better suited but thats my personal taste and opinion, its less cluttered - and Id imagine you are running windoze for all that work - a lot of my beef is with windoze tbh more than anything, but yes for image work the Apple series are very good, as is a very highly specced modern PC would run it 'fine' - but a lot of it comes down to the OS & windows has just got worse and worse and worse, with more clutter and 'features' that no body wants.

Mac's are very expensive also - but you do get a 'complete' experience for that, and these days, the power to back it up.
 
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