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AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-core, 24-Thread Unlocked Desktop Processor what cooler should I get?

Edward78

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AMD 199-999575 Wraith Max Cooler with RGB LED I know will do it. but it is expensive for a new one, will Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition CPU Air Cooler, SF120R RGB Fan, 4 CD 2.0 Heatpipes, Anodized Gun-Metal Black, Brushed Nickel Fins, RGB Lighting for AMD Ryzen/Intel LGA1151 work. Prob. don't have one that can fit in a RVZ02 case?
 
Edward78 said:
I am not going to overclock itr, so a none-water will be ok right?
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the Noctua DH-15 has been proven in a number of tests to be every bit as good as an “all in one” water cooler and is occasionally better.

I am using this on a 5950x and the only real issue with it is the size of it s it is huge
 
What about the Dark Rock Pro 4? I read it's almost as good as the DH-15 while not being as much of a strain on the motherboard.
 
I bought a Noctua NH-U12A cooler, smaller than some of their other offerings but very effective. I don't have an AMD CPU but a 9900k, and they are toasty.
I did replace the brown fans on it to black ones, over time.

If I wanted to improve on that it would probably need to be a 360 AIO.
 
Zarax said:
What about the Dark Rock Pro 4? I read it's almost as good as the DH-15 while not being as much of a strain on the motherboard.
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I use a Dark Rock Pro 4 for my 3900x and it's excellent, when the new 5900's come out later in year I use it on that to.
 
Edward78 said:
I am not going to overclock itr, so a none-water will be ok right?
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At stock they boost, that boost frequency is based on a number of factors. Temperature being one of them. Its why many people talk about undervolting the cpu, this reduces the watts the cpu gives out as heat. Thus helps your cooler keep temps low, thus allows the boost frequency to be higher. I have never tried undrvolting but my 3800x would boost to 4.4GHz all cores or even higher on cold days when the temps were colder.

Also when you have high core counts, all cores running at maximum. The cpu will hit maximum temps very quickly on poor coolers and then be forced to reduce its maximum boost frequency. So you want a cooler that gets you that maximum stable stock boost, with all cores maxing out in games. Its kind of like getting the maximum performance your stock cpu can provide. It also helps when you overclock.

With custom water I did not need to overclock my 3800x's cores at all. I got great performance, just down to the right amount of cooling. I had issues more with overclocking the IF and getting RAM timings as low as posible. 40c load temps help.

If you go air cooling, just make sure the cooler fits in your case. Sometimes AIO's are better. If you go with an AIO water cooling kit, then make sure there is air flow over the vrm's. Read reviews about the cooler you pick and find out as much information as you can. How a cooler fits into a case is important. Air flow in the case is very important.

The other factors for performance, is a decent motherboard and power supply. Decent amount of fast RAM with good timings. Research amount the RAM timings, speeds and rank of the RAM you think you may need.
 
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w00dy85 said:
I use a Dark Rock Pro 4 for my 3900x and it's excellent, when the new 5900's come out later in year I use it on that to.
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I upgraded from a 3900xt to a 5950x and just watch out, these new 5xxx chips run hotter. In the case of the 5950x, about 10 degrees hotter compared to my 3900xt, sometimes even a bit more.

I'm on a watercooling loop as well lol.

Still within spec of course, but just expect whatever temps you get on your 3900x to jump up I'd say anywhere between 5~15 degrees. Maybe AMD will lower temps on processors later this year but I doubt it, they'll probably be the same thermal profile as the 5xxx just now but with the extra things AMD will be adding.
 
I have a 5900x and have the dark rock pro 4 and the noctua nh-d15 chromax and they both cool pretty much the same, maybe the slight edge to the noctua, but the be quiet looks better and runs quieter for sure
 
Audioboxer said:
I upgraded from a 3900xt to a 5950x and just watch out, these new 5xxx chips run hotter. In the case of the 5950x, about 10 degrees hotter compared to my 3900xt, sometimes even a bit more.

I'm on a watercooling loop as well lol.

Still within spec of course, but just expect whatever temps you get on your 3900x to jump up I'd say anywhere between 5~15 degrees. Maybe AMD will lower temps on processors later this year but I doubt it, they'll probably be the same thermal profile as the 5xxx just now but with the extra things AMD will be adding.
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Thanks for the info
 
I went from 3900x to 5950x. Before I managed to find a 5950x at RRP i decided to get an AIO 360mm cooler to use instead of my big boy Noctua NHD14 air cooler.
Bad move, thermals and noise was worse.
Basically if you have a large enough case then I’d suggest a big air cooler from Noctua or Dark Pro or similar. These things are big and may not ‘look’ as nice but IMO will cool better from what I’ve experienced and are actually quieter.
Most of my 5950 cores boost to around 5Ghz anyway with the AIO so not really worried.
 
Edward78 said:
Well I shouldn't really put that chip in a RVZ02 . I want to.
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The biggest cooler you could fit is the cryorig c1 with a 25mm fan. Temps won't be good.
How do I know? I've got the same in the rvz03...you're looking at 90c with downthrottling with any extended CPU workloads.

Also, the wraith prism does not fit the case
 
I think cooling with water can be a bit misleading. Its no better than an air cooler if the heat egress at the radiator cooling isn't getting the coolant-heated air efficiently out of the case. An air cooler is similarly limited by how you then get that hot air extracted. Decent case fan flow is needed.

I would like a CPU air cooler which had a 'tunnel' , 'tube' or 'vent' which led directly to a case exit point, with no way for the hot air to go anywhere else but out. That's just what we are trying to do with liquid cooling; transferring the energy to the exit without giving it an opportunity to stay in the case. Just doing it through an air tube (with reflective insude, so there's no heat radiating from the tube itself) would be even better: simpler, less power, less faff.
 
denigor777 said:
I think cooling with water can be a bit misleading. Its no better than an air cooler if the heat egress at the radiator cooling isn't getting the coolant-heated air efficiently out of the case. An air cooler is similarly limited by how you then get that hot air extracted. Decent case fan flow is needed.

I would like a CPU air cooler which had a 'tunnel' , 'tube' or 'vent' which led directly to a case exit point, with no way for the hot air to go anywhere else but out. That's just what we are trying to do with liquid cooling; transferring the energy to the exit without giving it an opportunity to stay in the case. Just doing it through an air tube (with reflective insude, so there's no heat radiating from the tube itself) would be even better: simpler, less power, less faff.
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The main issue on these Ryzen chips is the heat cannot be transferred away "fast enough", so you're right to say a top end air cooler is likely to perform the same as if not beat some AIO coolers.

Even a custom loop can be pushed hard by these chips and is probably the only type of watercooling that might give the top end air coolers a run for their money. Irony there being the fact a custom loop costs like 5~10x as much!

So I'd say what you said, if you have the case space and good case air flow, I wouldn't be rushing out to buy an AIO thinking it's necessarily going to drop your Ryzen temps like "magic". Especially these 5xxx chips.

Gaming on a 5950x with a custom loop with 3 rads for me and good rad fans is high 60s to mid 70s on most games. Maybe a bit less on less demanding games. But even last night Mafia definitive edition which I've just picked up managed to hit low 80s with vsync off. Though I have done a bit of reading apparently the 2K Launcher and Mafia itself are really poorly coded for anything other than fixed 60FPS.

This is with an overclocked 2080ti in the loop that tends to sit at mid 40s to low 50s at all times, even when the CPU is pushing 75~80. The 5950x can just get that hot. At the end of the day though my chip is still boosting great and my brain just has to do a bit of rethinking that the day of maybe getting low 60s on gaming is out the window. These chips run hot and will push themselves hard up to near thermal limit to boost as much as they can.

edit: I should add during a hot summer in the UK we obviously don't have homes with aircon and that innevitably adds a couple of degrees to all temps :cry: Good time for stability testing though to make sure you are fully stable under extra stress! Before winter comes in and all our PC temps drop 5 degrees.
 
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