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AMD Ryzen CPUs on Nvidia Graphics Cards

TNA

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The last time I upgraded my PC was to a 4770K and that was about 5 years ago now. It has been a great CPU and continues to be so running at 4.7GHz not skipping a beat. But I feel like the time to upgrade is coming soon. Not because I need to, as when I do game, I game at 4K which is less CPU dependant, but more so because I fancy something new.

Ryzen did not do enough to temp me to upgrade, but I am pretty sure Zen 2 will. Ryzen lags a bit behind on gaming currently, but I am confident Zen 2 will fix that. Will likely be at least 12 cores and offer better performance per core than my 4770K at 4.7GHz.

The question is, how do GeForce cards perform on the AMD platform? Are there any disadvantages vs Intel currently with Ryzen?

Wanted to go all AMD in all honesty, but Vega is not a 4K gaming card unfortunately and I have no idea when AMD will release a card that will offer such performance so I went for a 4K G-Sync monitor last year and will be staying with that for at least another 2-3 years.

Are there any figures that show Nvidia cards not running as well with Ryzen CPUs currently?
 
TNA said:
The last time I upgraded my PC was to a 4770K and that was about 5 years ago now. It has been a great CPU and continues to be so running at 4.7GHz not skipping a beat. But I feel like the time to upgrade is coming soon. Not because I need to, as when I do game, I game at 4K which is less CPU dependant, but more so because I fancy something new.

Ryzen did not do enough to temp me to upgrade, but I am pretty sure Zen 2 will. Ryzen lags a bit behind on gaming currently, but I am confident Zen 2 will fix that. Will likely be at least 12 cores and offer better performance per core than my 4770K at 4.7GHz.

The question is, how do GeForce cards perform on the AMD platform? Are there any disadvantages vs Intel currently with Ryzen?

Wanted to go all AMD in all honesty, but Vega is not a 4K gaming card unfortunately and I have no idea when AMD will release a card that will offer such performance so I went for a 4K G-Sync monitor last year and will be staying with that for at least another 2-3 years.

Are there any figures that show Nvidia cards not running as well with Ryzen CPUs currently?
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I upgraded from a 4.5Ghz 4690K to the 1600 you see in my signature, on the GTX 1070 you see there, one reason being the 4690K was bottlenecking the crap out of the GPU in some games, even causing stuttering, the 1600 fixed that completely.
In other games its not any faster but i'm GPU bound in most of those cases anyway and i feel like the CPU has more to give if the GPU was faster, i never did with the 4690K on the 1070, it always felt like a bottleneck to me, hence the upgrade.

Ryzen performs very well with nVidia cards, there is no issue there.

Having said all that the 8700K is faster, significantly because of the 1Ghz clock rate difference, that doesn't matter on something like a GTX 1080, but on a GTX 1080TI it would so if that's the card you're after my advice is get the 8700K.
 
Good to hear guys.

I am starting to get excited about Zen 2. I think it will be a beast of a CPU :D

Hopefully DDR5 RAM will be out around that time, as I probably won’t upgrade again for 5-6 years so might as well get everything up to date.
 
TNA said:
Good to hear guys.

I am starting to get excited about Zen 2. I think it will be a beast of a CPU :D

Hopefully DDR5 RAM will be out around that time, as I probably won’t upgrade again for 5-6 years so might as well get everything up to date.
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I was thinking the same however it looks like DDR5 will be out after Zen2 and I imagine the first iteration will be worse than the last (fastest) DDR4.
 
Troezar said:
I was thinking the same however it looks like DDR5 will be out after Zen2 and I imagine the first iteration will be worse than the last (fastest) DDR4.
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The thing is, if you have the slots, at least you have the option to upgrade a couple of year down the line.

I can always wait for Zen 3 if it means DDR5 :)
 
4K8KW10 said:
Zen 3 is AM4, so DDR4. Maybe Zen 5 will be with DDR5.
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Ok, won’t wait that long. DDR4 it is... :(

Zen 5 is like 2021 I think. That is if it does not get pushed back.

Will look into this closer to the launch of Zen 2 and see what’s what.
 
TNA said:
Ok, won’t wait that long. DDR4 it is... :(

Zen 5 is like 2021 I think. That is if it does not get pushed back.

Will look into this closer to the launch of Zen 2 and see what’s what.
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We won't miss anything. DDR5 just increases the latencies to some crazy numbers.
I would prefer DDR4 4133 instead of any initial DDR5 version.
 
4K8KW10 said:
We won't miss anything. DDR5 just increases the latencies to some crazy numbers.
I would prefer DDR4 4133 instead of any initial DDR5 version.
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Yeah, that is why I am sticking to my DDR3 mate, those DDR4 latencies are crazy. DDR3 much better :P

As I mentioned, by getting DDR5, you can later upgrade your RAM if you want. Remember, when I upgrade, I will likely keep what I have for at least 5 years as my primary PC.

If DDR5 and PCIE 4 is only a year away when Zen 2 comes out, I may wait. I do not video encode, so unless games come out that I really want to play which show huge benefits over what I have, not rush.
 
TNA said:
Yeah, that is why I am sticking to my DDR3 mate, those DDR4 latencies are crazy. DDR3 much better :p

As I mentioned, by getting DDR5, you can later upgrade your RAM if you want. Remember, when I upgrade, I will likely keep what I have for at least 5 years as my primary PC.

If DDR5 and PCIE 4 is only a year away when Zen 2 comes out, I may wait. I do not video encode, so unless games come out that I really want to play which show huge benefits over what I have, not rush.
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You can't really upgrade whenever you wish. You are limited by the installed CPU and motherboard.
Ryzen 1000's official support with all memory modules is up to DDR4 2667.
Ryzen 2000's official support with all memory modules is up to DDR4 2933.
Everything above these is an OC profile and is NOT guaranteed to work, at all.
 
4K8KW10 said:
You can't really upgrade whenever you wish. You are limited by the installed CPU and motherboard.
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I don't think you understand what I am saying.

That is like saying I cannot upgrade my 1866MHz DDR3 RAM to 2400MHz DDR3 RAM.
 
4K8KW10 said:
You can't if the CPU and motherboard won't boot.
Ryzen won't boot with DDR4 3800, for instance.
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I see. Never had that issue with my Intel builds over the years. At worst my ASUS mobo would get a BIOS update and it would work. Like my current mobo can support 2400MHz if I wanted to get it for example.

Not built an AMD system since the Athlon days.

In that case you have a fair point. Thanks for pointing that out for me :)
 
I've found the same being on a board with PCIE 2.0 and DDR3. I've had it so long is not worth dropping cash on an i7 and 2133MHz RAM. Much better to put the money into a new platform. It can be tricky timing upgrades when the tech companies are being unhelpful with their schedules lol.

I've got a 1070 only because AMD dropped the ball. To be fair it's a decent card. With luck I can go all AMD again over the next few years.
 
Troezar said:
I've found the same being on a board with PCIE 2.0 and DDR3. I've had it so long is not worth dropping cash on an i7 and 2133MHz RAM. Much better to put the money into a new platform. It can be tricky timing upgrades when the tech companies are being unhelpful with their schedules lol.

I've got a 1070 only because AMD dropped the ball. To be fair it's a decent card. With luck I can go all AMD again over the next few years.
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The lanes from the cpu will work at pcie gen 3 speeds with an ivy bridge cpu.
 
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