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Do you guys reckon that it'd be worth investing in AMD shares? By the sounds of things, Polaris and Zen are going to be big. They're using very modern standards of small transistors and manufacturing techniques by the sound of things. If these ventures are successful, I feel it could see their share price dramatically increase.
Their stock has dropped off a fair bit in the last couple of days so now would be a good time to buy if I was going to.
At under $2 a share at the moment, I reckon it might be worth buying a few and seeing what happens, but what do you guys think?
 
If you can afford to lose the money why not.

There is probably a lot safer investments if its more than a bit of fun.
 
AMD shares are rated poorly, i would avoid. Much better off with a spread investment on e.g. the FTSE, the FTSE is almost definitely going to rise after this slump, but individual companies might not.
AMD still have the very distinct possibility of bankruptcy, especially as they have huge loan repayments in the next years. The reason the share value is low is because experts don't think the company has much value and is at risk. So why do you think your predictions are better than the experts?
 
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I'll buy a few. At that price you can buy loadw for peanuts, if it goes pop then that's that but I like a gamble. Could be worth something in the long run.
 
helpimcrap said:
How does a normal person invest in shares then without using a financial advisor?

Go through a bank?
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You'd go through a broker, i.e. Axa. And if you're being sensible, you'd open an ISA account.

And to the OP, if you think you know more than professional investment bankers and hedge fund staff, go for it. But odds are, you don't.

Of course though, people will often get lucky and then profess to be geniuses.
 
AMDs sole purpose is preventing an nvidia and intel monopoly. I don't care what AMD are working on, you're not telling me intel aren't sitting on future tech and having the luxury of drip feeding small increments. Perhaps less so for Nvidia?

IF, IF AMD release something good, intel will simply bring out the big guns and go one better.

I initially thought all those years ago AMD were on to a good thing in buying ATI. Perhaps they could merge the two technologies and come up with some power house GPU/CPU hybrid but all we got was a rubbish CPU, with a GPU stuck to it which is no good to man nor beast. Not power efficient enough for ultrabooks, not powerful enough for gaming. What's the point.

You only have to look at benchmark after benchmark. AMD are nowhere.

They even attempted to enter the enterprise segment but that went nowhere either. We don't have a single opteron processor in our entire data centre.

If it wasn't for games consoles, AMD would have already gone bust.

In ten years time, will technology have evolved to enable cloud based gaming? If so, what's AMDs plan

VR is on the horizon. You're not telling me, future VR tech will be limited to homes. NO chance, VR will be heavily focused on cloud. Who owns Oculus? yep, facebook!

Network technologies running new protocols and you can kiss goodbye to AMD
 
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glen8 said:
AMDs sole purpose is preventing an nvidia and intel monopoly. I don't care what AMD are working on, you're not telling me intel aren't sitting on future tech and having the luxury of drip feeding small increments. Perhaps less so for Nvidia?

IF, IF AMD release something good, intel will simply bring out the big guns and go one better.

I initially thought all those years ago AMD were on to a good thing in buying ATI. Perhaps they could merge the two technologies and come up with some power house GPU/CPU hybrid but all we got was a rubbish CPU, with a GPU stuck to it which is no good to man nor beast. Not power efficient enough for ultrabooks, not powerful enough for gaming. What's the point.

You only have to look at benchmark after benchmark. AMD are nowhere.

They even attempted to enter the enterprise segment but that went nowhere either. We don't have a single opteron processor in our entire data centre.

If it wasn't for games consoles, AMD would have already gone bust.

In ten years time, will technology have evolved to enable cloud based gaming? If so, what's AMDs plan

VR is on the horizon. You're not telling me, future VR tech will be limited to homes. NO chance, VR will be heavily focused on cloud. Who owns Oculus? yep, facebook!

Network technologies running new protocols and you can kiss goodbye to AMD
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Cloud based gaming won't happen in the next 20 years, minimum, maybe ever. You can't beat latency and you can't beat the latency that is absolutely a physical fact of life of going off site to access data. More to the point VR is even more latency critical. VR won't ever be done in the cloud(okay VR movies can be streamed but gaming will not happen).

There is nothing that can't be done today for cloud gaming that will magically become viable in 20 years. The difference is today a single data centre could support lets say 1000 concurrent users while a same sized/power data centre in 10 years could support 5000 users(keeping in mind quality/resolution would increase).

The reason gaming via online sources sucks today is the reason it will suck a decade from now, adding 15-20ms at the absolute minimum isn't good enough but most online gaming platforms are adding 100-300ms of latency. Network infrastructure won't be improved worldwide in the next 50 years to make it a reality. VR which will be huge for gaming and general screen usage at home only makes cloud gaming less viable as it's significantly more latency sensitive.

Facebook type VR will be based around making some **** second life type world for Facebook, where facebook users can go online and see their friends within the world. They will have second life style world with virtual billboards EVERYWHERE and in everything you can do within it. Some stuff will be fine, like watching a film with your friends.... but at home, the rest will be a joke. None of it will be AAA gaming, again latency is a monumental issue with gaming and the sole reason it has failed massively to date, latency won't improve unless you can, you know, make light go faster.... so latency isn't going to improve. They'll have VR gaming online for facebook, nothing high end, nothing latency sensitive, board games, stupid basic games, stupid Wii Sports type crap like bowling with your friends.
 
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helpimcrap said:
How does a normal person invest in shares then without using a financial advisor?

Go through a bank?
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most people don't use a financial advisor for this... and most financial advisors won't (and really aren't in any position to) advise you on individual stocks anyway - they'll tend to sell you pensions, insurance, packaged products etc... They'll probably advise you what % of your wealth to risk investing in stocks but they won't usually tell you which individual stocks to pick.

Some stockbrokers will advise you on individual stocks - the larger firms offering discretionary or advisory services will tend to have their own in house teams of analysts... whether they actually offer any value to you is debatable.]

you can just do it all yourself via brokers just offering execution services - interactivebrokers.co.uk is the best value overall for most things...
 
AMD announced HUGE stuff for 2017 last night. Opterons early 2017 based on Zen with disruptive memory bandwidth..... read that as server chips on interposers with HBM2 stacks. That will be industry changing for servers, bandwidth previously not possible, same bandwidth at lower power than previously possible.

They also have K12, and then server APUs, again with HBM2, again something no one else offers.

With both HSA and the fabric they are using they also have a fair amount of flexibility they could have a rack with a couple of A1100 or K12's in to offer huge I/O performance with racks of Opterons or APUs, or both, with HSA providing compatibility through all of it.

These are going to be things that afaik, Intel won't be able to match in the very near future. HMC appears to be 1-2 years behind HBM and while it can be done on an interposer is more aimed at the far mode usage in more like dimm slots. Their APUs will probably turn up in servers but they don't have the compute performance, features or HSA to take advantage of them.

Being invested in AMD in the past two years was a bad idea when they basically told everyone they were semi shutting up shop on new products till late 2016 with a whole new line up of products. However things AMD has worked on for a decade are coming to fruition. They've been working on total integration with interposers for 6-7 years. Unfortunately interposers and on package memory really got delayed by 2-3 years in large part because of delays on 20/14nm.

But a year from now, everything comes together. APUs are going to be a huge deal starting from interposers and having huge on die bandwidth previously only achievable on a discrete gpu. CPU/GPU integration previously unachievable. AMD are going to bring a large number of industry first and industry leading products starting from Q4 this year. Dumping AMD stock 2-3 years ago(as I did) and buying again maybe now, maybe wait for a slump after Q2/q3 results, though the slump in the market itself probably means current prices are good as they'll get.
 
Jim99 said:
You'd go through a broker, i.e. Axa. And if you're being sensible, you'd open an ISA account.

And to the OP, if you think you know more than professional investment bankers and hedge fund staff, go for it. But odds are, you don't.

Of course though, people will often get lucky and then profess to be geniuses.
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Just to add to that, if you open an ISA account then you don't get to invest in individual stocks, instead you pick a fund to invest in which are run by professionals who pick the stocks. You should be able to find a fund which invests outside the UK e.g. Asia or the USA if that's what floats your boat.

Whether or not now is a good time to invest in a stocks and shares ISA or not, who knows...
 
drunkenmaster said:
AMD announced HUGE stuff for 2017 last night. Opterons early 2017 based on Zen with disruptive memory bandwidth..... read that as server chips on interposers with HBM2 stacks. That will be industry changing for servers, bandwidth previously not possible, same bandwidth at lower power than previously possible.

They also have K12, and then server APUs, again with HBM2, again something no one else offers.

With both HSA and the fabric they are using they also have a fair amount of flexibility they could have a rack with a couple of A1100 or K12's in to offer huge I/O performance with racks of Opterons or APUs, or both, with HSA providing compatibility through all of it.

These are going to be things that afaik, Intel won't be able to match in the very near future. HMC appears to be 1-2 years behind HBM and while it can be done on an interposer is more aimed at the far mode usage in more like dimm slots. Their APUs will probably turn up in servers but they don't have the compute performance, features or HSA to take advantage of them.

Being invested in AMD in the past two years was a bad idea when they basically told everyone they were semi shutting up shop on new products till late 2016 with a whole new line up of products. However things AMD has worked on for a decade are coming to fruition. They've been working on total integration with interposers for 6-7 years. Unfortunately interposers and on package memory really got delayed by 2-3 years in large part because of delays on 20/14nm.

But a year from now, everything comes together. APUs are going to be a huge deal starting from interposers and having huge on die bandwidth previously only achievable on a discrete gpu. CPU/GPU integration previously unachievable. AMD are going to bring a large number of industry first and industry leading products starting from Q4 this year. Dumping AMD stock 2-3 years ago(as I did) and buying again maybe now, maybe wait for a slump after Q2/q3 results, though the slump in the market itself probably means current prices are good as they'll get.
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This the boost they received from the promise: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=AMD

Anything else will need to come from delivering on it. And then making money.
 
scorza said:
Just to add to that, if you open an ISA account then you don't get to invest in individual stocks, instead you pick a fund to invest in which are run by professionals who pick the stocks. You should be able to find a fund which invests outside the UK e.g. Asia or the USA if that's what floats your boat.

Whether or not now is a good time to invest in a stocks and shares ISA or not, who knows...
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I'm pretty sure that's not true, e.g. http://www.hl.co.uk/investment-services/isa

Our do-it-yourself stocks and shares ISA places you firmly in control, with a wide investment choice and a variety of tools to assist you with your investment decisions.

Where can you invest?

Funds
Over 2,500 funds available with no charge when you buy and sell funds, plus a low-cost reinvestment service.
Shares
Choose from shares listed on the UK, US, Canadian and European stock markets. Buy or sell shares from £11.95 per trade online, and frequent traders can pay as little as £5.95 per trade.
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Also, this wouldn't be possible: http://on.ft.com/1TpPH1T
 
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