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AMD Short-Sellers Pwned

Kaapstad said:
After all the gloom and doom stories about AMD it looks like the people taking the hit are some of those who would benefit most from the decline of the company.
I really don't like short selling so it is a nice change to see these greedy people lose out.
Well done AMD.
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I don't understand what short selling is and in truth I'm not really interested but I'm glad to see that all the naysayers were wrong, losinbg AMD would have been a disaster for all of us.

Lokken86 said:
The share price hit $27 today. Crazy turn around.
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Not crazy, it's grrrreat (said in a Tony the Tiger voice). :D
 
PiKe said:
Do they not realise if they ran AMD into the ground so that Intel were the only player that it would actually hurt Intel more?
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Why would it hurt Intel more? As the only major player in the market Intel wouldn't have to innovate as much, get to set their own road maps and not have to invest as deeply into R&D. In short, better bottom line for them. It would however hurt the industry and customers. But when there are little or no other options, why would any dominant company care?
 
nashathedog said:
I don't understand what short selling is and in truth I'm not really interested but I'm glad to see that all the naysayers were wrong, losinbg AMD would have been a disaster for all of us.



Not crazy, it's grrrreat (said in a Tony the Tiger voice). :D
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If you think a share will fall, you can borrow it from someone who owns it (say via a hedge fund) and sell it now in the hope that you can buy it back cheaper before you have to return it. Obviously risky but can be used legitimately (i.e. not in times of crisis) for overvalued companies (e.g. Tesla? Sorry Musky, it was the first one that came to mind :))

Great for AMD, and for anyone who bought their shares when they were going for $12-$13 earlier this year. Gamers may disagree with Lisa Su's strategy but she may have saved the company.
 
Rezident said:
If you think a share will fall, you can borrow it from someone who owns it (say via a hedge fund) and sell it now in the hope that you can buy it back cheaper before you have to return it. Obviously risky but can be used legitimately (i.e. not in times of crisis) for overvalued companies (e.g. Tesla? Sorry Musky, it was the first one that came to mind :))

Great for AMD, and for anyone who bought their shares when they were going for $12-$13 earlier this year. Gamers may disagree with Lisa Su's strategy but she may have saved the company.
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I'll add in that a "Long" position is the opposite to Shorting in that you borrow money to buy the shares. If they go up in value you can sell, keep the profit and return the initial amount you borrow :)

Both are ways to profit by using money you don't own and can land you in debt if things go against you.
 
Rezident said:
If you think a share will fall, you can borrow it from someone who owns it (say via a hedge fund) and sell it now in the hope that you can buy it back cheaper before you have to return it. Obviously risky but can be used legitimately (i.e. not in times of crisis) for overvalued companies (e.g. Tesla? Sorry Musky, it was the first one that came to mind :))

Great for AMD, and for anyone who bought their shares when they were going for $12-$13 earlier this year. Gamers may disagree with Lisa Su's strategy but she may have saved the company.
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As a gamer I am gutted AMD's not been competitive for a while but Lisa Su's playing the the long game & it's a price we should all be willing to pay, It seems Ryzen's done well so it's now a case of waiting for the magic to rub off on Radeon. I've only got one complaint about Mrs Su and that's that she missed all the warning signs & never saw through what Mr Koduri was doing, She should've got rid of him long before she did, If she had the Vega release could've been received a lot better than it was. I suppose she was too caught up with Ryzen at the time.
 
Bugbait said:
Why would it hurt Intel more? As the only major player in the market Intel wouldn't have to innovate as much, get to set their own road maps and not have to invest as deeply into R&D. In short, better bottom line for them. It would however hurt the industry and customers. But when there are little or no other options, why would any dominant company care?
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Intel would have the monopoly which in turn would lead to them being ordered to be broken up into smaller companies.

So AMD existing, is good for both parties.
 
PiKe said:
Intel would have the monopoly which in turn would lead to them being ordered to be broken up into smaller companies.

So AMD existing, is good for both parties.
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Exactly. Intel really want a weak AMD, keeps all those executive bonuses flowing ;)

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