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AMD tapes out Zen & Arctic

Zen will be good but it won't be the intel killer type processor everybody's hoping for that will annihilate intel's most top processors out at the time.

I wish them good luck and hope they do bring Intel serious competition with Zen. This would be better all around for us consumers considering
it means bigger performance jumps every generation and cheaper prices too which is good for us.
 
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Whenever zen comes out, it'd be nice if we could buy it.
I'd happily buy a carrizo 8800p laptop, but they don't appear to exist...

It's been like this for the last few mobile releases, theres a product I like, and it has adequate performance for my needs. Doesn't matter though, OEMs aren't interested!
 
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