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AMD to lay off 10% of work force

which makes intel the best at the momennt :( its always better the have competition as it keeps prices down etc.....

also depends on which departments were layed of and wether it will effect upcoming releases
 
jaybee said:
Bad times for AMD and us as consumers the weaker the competition gets.
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actually not so much, it seems like AMD are moving from a great engineer but potentially awful CEO/manager, to a guy who knows what he's doing. AMD, despite the debt, with stupidly strong GPU sales/performance, awesome APU's and crap but still huge volume Phenom/ath sales should be more profitable than they are.

Engineers CAN make great managers, they can also do the opposite, make no crucial decisions, get all exciting in a new architecture and let it drag on as they keep adding stuff, this is pretty much what feels like happens with Bulldozer.

They've got a proven CEO in who is good with profit margins, efficiency, general idea's of where the market is going, etc, etc.

AMD are moving back to I think a little above the number of employee's they had in late 2009. Very hard to tell who is getting canned and from what departments from the outside. But Bulldozer would be WELL on its way 2 years ago, and the GPU staff would be, again the vast vast majority would have been there since the ATi merger, which does suggest that a lot of the 1400 people being let go are in non critical area's, managers, marketing, etc, etc, which could have entirely no effect on the actual engineering staff nor the quality of what comes from AMD.

If they've identified 1400 engineers paid to highly because they've been their too long, it could end up very bad for AMD< or frankly very good, sometimes old engineers get stuck in their idea's and think in single thread and certain type of way, or they could be stunningly good engineers and it screws AMD.

But it does seem like they've more or less identified 1400 staff they can do without who are more waste than useful, and more efficiency, less managers, but still having the quality people there could simply mean much higher profits(touted at 120mil a year) which can all be ploughed into R&D or paying off debt which will also increase profit longterm(less interest payments).

Basically, good or bad, no one will have a clue for 2-3 years at least.
 
can't believe all the bull reactions around here, holy hell AMD are laying off some of their workforce, must be the end of the company because Bulldozer was so unbelievably competitive, note the massive amounts of sarcasm in that sentence!

over the past decade Intel have shed countless thousands of jobs, literally, tens of times more than that! its becoming the way of the world, be it supermarkets, or industry, or semi-conductor manufacturers, the same work is getting done by less and less people all the time as things get more automated and more user friendly.

took the Ancient Egyptians tens if not hundreds of thousands of men to build the Great Pyramids, now the same job would be done by more like hundreds! too quote 'Live and Let Die' its an ever changing world in which we live in...:p

Edit: also what is remotely 'haha' about 1,400 people loosing their lively-hood in the current economic **** storm? if you got made redundant from work would you be wanting people to think 'haha'? didn't think so...
 
As the lastest info pretty much confirms, the biggest, by far, firings were in PR/martketing/trade show staff. Which isn't too surprising, personally I think AMD's press people have been god awful for a long time. Charlie is complaining that reviewers who wanted to ask questions from AMD, well that department is gone. But they were doing a awful job anyway, missing key things, keeping releases in such secrecy that they end in disasters and with many leaks on the wrong setups and what not.

That's all good and fine efficiency savings in my book, Charlie has also suggested some engineers have gone, the team behind Trinity and that AMD are announcing an ARM licence tomorrow. He thinks thats entirely the wrong move, I think that CAN be a wrong move, or the right move. There's plenty of things you can do with a ARM licence, from releasing your own ARM based chip, to adding some ARM to certain things, to playing with arm and releasing things that are compatible you can licence to other people.

Thing is, if AMD move solely to ARM, I can't see it working, if they are hedging their bets based on where X86 might be in 3-4 years, it could well be worth it.
 
Looking at the c*ckups of AMD don't be too suprised if it's 1400 people from R&D who know what they're doing (therefore getting high pay) getting the chop while nobody at management level lose their jobs.

Many a company trim from the wrong areas during bad times.
 
I agree with one of the previous posts

Wether these job losses will be good or bad Wont be clear straight away. Guess will we have to see how pildriver and trinity are marketed and to see what they learn from the way BD was promoted and if they can improve in both areas.


Also the "haha" was not aimed at the people loosing the jobs, was trying to make it but more light hearted with the BD joke.
 
It wouldn't be so bad if AMD wrote off their CPU effort completely and focused on making Radeon HD7000s with which they can actually compete.

Intel don't need competition. They have been doing a great job so far, no major setbacks and 22nm is coming on nicely.
 
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PanMaster said:
Intel don't need competition. They have been doing a great job so far, no major setbacks and 22nm is coming on nicely.
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Please rethink above statement.

Intel with no competition at all, how much do you think your next CPU purchase would cost.
 
PCZ said:
Please rethink above statement.

Intel with no competition at all, how much do you think your next CPU purchase would cost.
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+1
Intel need competition what was good about amd in the phenom stage was that they were very good for there price and this meant intel had to compete. If they have competition consumers have something to compare to, where as no Competition means that no body else has a similar product and this would make intel unique and means they can charge what they like
 
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