AMD top range zen 3 vs mid range zen 4

[Zarax]

I'm checking prices and the early adopter tax VS end gen discounts for Zen 3 and it looks like a 5950X with 64GB RAM could be obtained for the same price as a 7700x.
Aside from PCIe 5 would I loose anything relevant?

I intend to keep the PC for a long time (let's say 8 years) and the only things I intend to swap are GPU and SSD.

I'm also open to Intel but as 12th gen in EU is not getting significant discounts yet I'd like to wait. Please leave other components upgrades out of the discussion, I'm not going to touch the CPU and I'm loading more than enough ram for a decade (64GB).

Thank you very much!

 

[Jamin280672]

I'm checking prices and the early adopter tax VS end gen discounts for Zen 3 and it looks like a 5950X with 64GB RAM could be obtained for the same price as a 7700x.
Aside from PCIe 5 would I loose anything relevant?

I intend to keep the PC for a long time (let's say 8 years) and the only things I intend to swap are GPU and SSD.

I'm also open to Intel but as 12th gen in EU is not getting significant discounts yet I'd like to wait. Please leave other components upgrades out of the discussion, I'm not going to touch the CPU and I'm loading more than enough ram for a decade (64GB).

Thank you very much!

As I said on another thread:

I just brought a 5950X new for less than what I paid for my 5800X at launch, real world performance are you going to notice any difference between Ryzen 5000 vs 7000, I dont think so, synthetic benchmarks shows performance gains, and overclocking on LN2 shows 6ghz+ but like I said, we live in the real world where we dont have nitrogen tankers outside our homes to keep our PC's cool, and dont run benchmarks all day long.
I priced up a new 7000 system, which included a 7700X, you would then need a new motherboard and new ram too, possibly a new cooler depending on how your current cooler mounts, if it doesnt mount to your AM4 bracket now and uses its own backplate, then you'll need a new cooler as the backplate on AM5 isnt removable, and maybe even a new PSU, came out over 3 times more than I recently paid for my 5950X, thanks but no thanks, a youtube video I watched which made me laugh showed 5000 vs 7000 chips, but they also included the 5800X3D which was keeping up with the new 7000 chips.

Wait 5-8 years if you already have an Am4 platform of some sort.

 

[Zarax]

In my case it is building from scratch in both scenarios, I'd be upgrading from an i7-3770k

 

[Jamin280672]

In my case it is building from scratch in both scenarios, I'd be upgrading from an i7-3770k

AM4 would defiantly be the cheaper option, A good X570S mobo would be about £200, 5950X is about £500 vs a 7950X which is £770, and DDR4 is pretty much half the price of DDR5

 

[lsg1r]

AM4 would defiantly be the cheaper option, A good X570S mobo would be about £200, 5950X is about £500 vs a 7950X which is £770, and DDR4 is pretty much half the price of DDR5

However AM5 would give longer term upgrade routes including potential changes of the CPU if needed, at least for a couple of years anyway.

@Zarax I recently bought an AM4 5950x rig with 2x32gb 3600 ram etc rather than waiting and priced up the AM5 equivelent version if I'd waited, it came in (partly down to the lack of cheaper motherboards) at nearly £900 more for just the motherboard, cpu and ram....

Having said that I wouldn't see any pc bought now being kept for 8 years, I think we're now entering a period where we'll see progress again along with artificial restrictions being placed on things by manufacturers/software companies etc to 'force' upgrades... because lets be honest, even todays slowest pc's are more than enough for most people, especially if they don't game etc

 

[Zarax]

However AM5 would give longer term upgrade routes including potential changes of the CPU if needed, at least for a couple of years anyway.

@Zarax I recently bought an AM4 5950x rig with 2x32gb 3600 ram etc rather than waiting and priced up the AM5 equivelent version if I'd waited, it came in (partly down to the lack of cheaper motherboards) at nearly £900 more for just the motherboard, cpu and ram....

Having said that I wouldn't see any pc bought now being kept for 8 years, I think we're now entering a period where we'll see progress again along with artificial restrictions being placed on things by manufacturers/software companies etc to 'force' upgrades... because lets be honest, even todays slowest pc's are more than enough for most people, especially if they don't game etc

I would have gladly upgraded already but it was always above what I was ready to pay and so are many other customers, one thing is manufacturer's wishes and another is reality.

Artificial restrictions will just make people cling harder on their older hardware, just see what happened with Windows XP and Windows 7 later, same thing will be with Windows 10.
Unless you're a professional, PCs are not primary goods and people will either wait or switch to consoles/game streaming.

So yes, I will very likely keep my current PC for 10 years and the next one for at least 8, remember that no matter what hardware sellers would like Windows will keep those machines compliant until 2030 at least.