AMD Trinity A10-5800K APU

[EvilOne]

which means a reduction in instructions per clock. so clock for clock trinity will be slower than llano. and to compensate trinity will be clocked much higher than llano.

either way its not worth bothering with. better off going with ivybridge for considerably increased cpu power.

Any source for the lower IPC in trinity core vs llano core ? Hope thats just a guess tbh.

Also think llano/trinity are totally a totally diffrent markets then ivybridge is. The only reason to get one is for the iGPU, much better options if you are going the high performance cpu route. I dont think you would be looking at llano's if that sort of price/setup was an option.

@OP i would hold out for the trinity if at all possable, it should be better in every single way (it supports hybrid crossfire same way llano does) . Myself im waiting for Kaveri, trinity's successor. Only another year or two to wait lol, good job im patient, just hope my Q6600 doesnt burn out in mean time.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

people buying llano or trinity will be doing so only for the IGPU, if anyone thinks about sticking with the IGPU till they get money for a seperate gfx card then they will instantly be hit by the cpu bottleneck.

anyone thinking of using IGPU for short term and planning to get discrete card after may as well go with intel.

as for trinity its supposed to be based on piledriver cores which are like bulldozer. so expect a quad core trinity to really be a dual core with 2 extra integer units slapped on just like how bulldozer is thats why its not really an 8 core cpu like they advertise it to be.

still for those wanting a HTPC in a mini itx formfactor in a tiny tiny case, trinity and llano fit the bill. but for anything larger your going to be better off with intel.

also power consumption favours intel setups too against llano just as cpu performance does too.

 

[Daichin]

This is definitely a chip made for laptops, where gaming performance is beginning to matter and the systems don't have discrete cards.

I really don't see where the desktop chip fits into the market. As Cyber-Mav says above, anyone who wants gaming will be better off with a discrete card and an IB and anyone with a HTPC won't want the graphics performance.

Also, I thought Piledriver was the follow-up to Bulldozer, not just Bulldozer cores with extra bits slapped on?

 

[elroberto]

What about users who internet browse, do occasional wordprocessing, do light gaming (Empire: Total War being the most intensive thing I run) and some video encoding and DVD creation but don't quite have the budget for an i5 2500k?

 

[Cyber-Mav]

those people will be better served with pentium g840's etc. even a sandybridge derived celeron is considerably faster than llano, lanno is slower than majority of socket 775 cpus.

remember there is no real upgrade path with llano, look at trinity, its going straight onto a new socket. so llano users cant upgrade to it.

atleast with a celeron on socket 1155 you got plenty of upgrade options.

those doing real light use as in net browsing etc will be ok with an atom based setup.

 

[humbug]

which means a reduction in instructions per clock. so clock for clock trinity will be slower than llano. and to compensate trinity will be clocked much higher than llano.

either way its not worth bothering with. better off going with ivybridge for considerably increased cpu power.

He probably want's Trinity for a reason, one would have to assume HTPC?

For that AMD is way better than Intel as Trinity's IGPU utterly monsters Intel's IGPU's, and for those who would say just get a "discrete GPU" i would say why bother spending that extra money just to have better CPU performance, on a HTPC?????
If you going to get a discrete GPU do it with the APU as that will Hybrid crossfire pushing the GPU performance up even more, there are a lot of things Intel fans can pedal, for now. but some things just look like some ridiculous agenda.

Toms Hardware have tested the A10-5800K, what they found was 15% performance increase over Llano (CPU) and 30% - 50% (GPU)

Trinity is a Piledriver core, that is not just a Bulldozer core under another name, for a start its 40% - 50% more efficient and it has 15% higher IPC performance, it is also clocked 30% higher than any Llano while sill using less power. as result of all that its getting close to Ivy stock, and with Ivy's new overclocking limits vs Sandy you also need to take into account Trinity's overclocking potential.

To give you an example an old FX4100 Bulldozer will run at 4.8Ghz on a cheap CM Hyper 212 EVO, Piledriver is 40% + more efficient.

AMD made a right old mess of Bulldozer, but its starting to look like there making up for it, Piledrive is what Bulldozer was supposed to be.