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AMD Upgrade advice needed please

mattcrane

mattcrane

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Wife is currently running a FX4100 in her PC only used for playing WoW and maybe a little bit of D3 but is having issues with FPS which I am fairly sure are CPU bottleneck related, so I am thinking of upgrading her a little bit.

MSI 970A-G46 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard
MSI R9 270X GAMING 4GB
8Gb Ram
H80i Cooler

Anyone got a recommendation for a new AMD CPU that's only really got to last her 18months as we will be able to afford a complete new system for her at that point.

Unfortunately funds are a bit tight, (max about £150).

Cheers in advance :)
 
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youre unlikey to get more than a 10% increase down the amd upgrade route unless the games are heavily multi threaded
for the money you can get a i3 and mb (reuse old mem etc) I'd expect this to be 20% faster if not more cpu wise
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AlamoX said:
the mobo is enough, here is the compatibility list of CPUs from MSI Link
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Older generation MSI,so I would play safe.

Also,regarding D3 OP. My mate has a FX6300 and a HD7870XT and I have a Xeon E3 1230 V2. With my old GTX660 I used to get better minimums but the problem is that in Rifts and heavy battles I would still have framerate tanking at times,and at the same time as he was.

Even people with Core i7 4770K CPUs have noticed the same and its more a server problem at times too.
 
meldarthx said:
8320e solid cpu mine does 5 ghz........with older board it will slot in fine :)
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I'm afraid it's not so easy to put an fx8 into these older high failure rate motherboards, it would be risky using an Fx8 of any kind on this board, hence I agree with Cat get an fx6, unless you provide good cooling on the motherboard.. I've seen these cpu's run in the board and they are on the edge at 1.4v with mb temps in the 90's to 100c.
As the op has an h80i he has an either greater risk of burning the board unless he uses a 80-100mm fan over the socket area.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/...mperatures-on-Stock-Clock-Speeds-(AMD-FX-8320)

The fx8320e will vary on it's vid (1.15-1.35v) which is just a p-state refined fx8320 anyway. But the fundamental problem with the fx8320e is that the clock speeds are so low that the Op would have to overclock the cpu to see any worthwhile performance increase over his current fx4100.
Ideally any fx series needs to be in the 4.7/4.8ghz for the sweet spot.
 
I'm normally pretty bullish on what can be achieved with 8 core cpus on 4+1 VRM setups, but that motherboard really would be on the edge with even a minor overclock and I agree that they did need a little kick up the arse.

Therefore I would suggest a 6 core, a fan over the VRM area as previously mentioned and an overclock to 4.2 - 4.5 depending on temps.

What overclock are you running on the current CPU?
 
Davedree said:
I'm afraid it's not so easy to put an fx8 into these older high failure rate motherboards, it would be risky using an Fx8 of any kind on this board, hence I agree with Cat get an fx6, unless you provide good cooling on the motherboard.. I've seen these cpu's run in the board and they are on the edge at 1.4v with mb temps in the 90's to 100c.
As the op has an h80i he has an either greater risk of burning the board unless he uses a 80-100mm fan over the socket area.

http://www.overclockers.com/forums/...mperatures-on-Stock-Clock-Speeds-(AMD-FX-8320)

The fx8320e will vary on it's vid (1.15-1.35v) which is just a p-state refined fx8320 anyway. But the fundamental problem with the fx8320e is that the clock speeds are so low that the Op would have to overclock the cpu to see any worthwhile performance increase over his current fx4100.
Ideally any fx series needs to be in the 4.7/4.8ghz for the sweet spot.
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mine running at default runs on 1.12v-1.20v that's 3.3ghz as 8320e is 95w cpu. running at 5ghz I'm running 1.46v.....yes I'm not running crazy volts to hit 5ghz.

4.5 I can hit at default volts; so he could easily hit 4.3/4.4 on lower volts and not kill his board.

8320e isn't just a down clocked 8320; its has a lot of improvements that's come from a very mature process. That's why I said for his board that's most likely beat cpu for him.

It will run cooler; with less volts at higher range than fx6 range....
 
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