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amd x2 or conroe ????

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saving up some cash but am just wondering if i should go for a 4800 x2 or go for a conroe i should have about 400 in 2 month at which point the 4800 should have droped abit, if i go the conroe root i have to get a new mobo and possible new mem which should be both in my 400 budget but there is nothing wrong with the mobo i have it just needs a new cpu ( currently on a amd 64 4000+ with a asus a8n 32 mobo ) thoughts ??????
 
Conroe IMO, switching myself around September. The E6600 is on-par with the FX-62, which is amazing value for a £250 chip.
 
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Is there any reason everyone keeps saying you will need new RAM for Conroe? I was under the impression that Conroe worked with all current standards, including DDR333/400, whereas it was only socket AM2 that requires DDR2 RAM due to the on-die memory controller. :confused:

The motherboards do cost way too much at the moment though, which is partly why I am waiting until September or even next year. Should be new chipsets by then, at lower prices.
 
Úlfhednar said:
Will DDR400 work fine with Conroe? I am not going to bother upgrading until next year if I have to get rid of my RAM.

Well its supposed to work with the old 865 chipset and regular DDR, but it'll run at 800FSB and have to be "overclocked" to 1066...in any case, I would have thought using DDR would impair its performance.
 
sr4470 said:
Well its supposed to work with the old 865 chipset and regular DDR, but it'll run at 800FSB and have to be "overclocked" to 1066...in any case, I would have thought using DDR would impair its performance.
I'll give it a think then. My current setup, by my standards, is easily good enough for another 12 months so I don't think I'll be making any unnecessary upgrades such as going from 2GB DDR400 to 2GB DDR2.

I wasn't planning to go Conroe until around September anyway, so I'll check back here to see the score then. Hopefully some kind soul will do some benchies on Conroe with DDR400 and DDR2 to see if there's any real difference.
 
sr4470 said:
Well its supposed to work with the old 865 chipset and regular DDR, but it'll run at 800FSB and have to be "overclocked" to 1066...in any case, I would have thought using DDR would impair its performance.

I did not think that those boards would work with conroe at all?
 
Dark_Angel said:
I did not think that those boards would work with conroe at all?

Redesigned 865 boards with the correct power arrangements will work with conroe. If you look at the list on XS quoted above, theres a pair of ASRock 775 boards that appear to fit the bill.
 
A decent Conroe board (for overclocking) will set you back around £150+.
I wouldn't want to put a Conroe on an older chipset that supports DDR and AGP.
Talk about bottlenecks.

Tempting as it is, Conroe (for me) demands a whole new platform to get the best out of it, so I'm keeping my current rig (Opty 170) for another year, when I'll upgrade the whole system. :cool:
 
Digital Punk said:
A decent Conroe board (for overclocking) will set you back around £150+.
I wouldn't want to put a Conroe on an older chipset that supports DDR and AGP.
Talk about bottlenecks.

Tempting as it is, Conroe (for me) demands a whole new platform to get the best out of it, so I'm keeping my current rig (Opty 170) for another year, when I'll upgrade the whole system. :cool:


no current, pre-order boards are very expensive but are only the very very high end boards with everything you don't really need. IE gigabyte 12 phase power, more expensive caps, quad bios and a bunch of other stuff that will not more than 0.5% effect overclockability or reliability of the board. gigabyte will as per usual have a very cheap board with 4-6 sata ports, 1 ide, 2 firewire, 6 usb2.0, normal phase power, 1 pci-e 16x, probo a 4x and a 1x aswell, 2-3 pci and overclock pretty much exactly the same and have same bios options as all boards. on athlon 939 setups i could get 99% of the same overclock on the £55 k8n-pro(think that might be the 754, forget the 939 board name) as i could on the £150 dfi sli boards. there will be plenty of much cheaper boards. same way you can get a dfi board for £150 on release, or the cut down(but identically performing(and as it turns out, modable into sli) board for £90.

as for memory, it would be fairly backwards to get a 939 setup new now as its almost end of life, will drop in value a lot and when you upgrade your parts won't sell as high as am2 bits would. selling your ddr now and buying ddr2 will cost less than selling your ddr in a year and buying ddr2 because no one will be buying ddr anymore.

also a E6600 is a good margin faster than the fx 62 in some situations at stock, but these chips are on air doing 3.4Ghz pretty easily, whereas a fx 62 will not get that high. right now amd are (ok next month) behind on performance and also for cost, which is a very new situation for amd.
 
just worked out that i can get a e6600 conroe and the new asus mobo for the same price as the x2 4800 :) so tempted
 
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