AMD X2 or wait for the AM2 sockets?

Naffa · 27 Apr 2006 at 16:38

Conroe will beat any CPU you care to think of it's just upto you as to whether you are willing to wait for it. The 4400X2 will be by no means slow, just Conroe will be better.

Heartless_King · 27 Apr 2006 at 16:53

conroe means new MoBo, DDR2 and cpu. Thinking better to just get X2 and wait for vista

humax · 27 Apr 2006 at 18:27

over the years i have heard all this hype before about new up and coming CPUs .that will be better than the last one .has anyone here got the new AM2 conroe ? .so how do we know it will be better ? because they tell us so .well thats how they sell stuff to use .they say its the bees knees and we all rush out and buy it like a bunch of sheep .buy for today and dont worrie about what might be coming out .

Heartless_King · 27 Apr 2006 at 18:31

Yea, I think I'd rather wait to see what is what first, also first release will have release prices

humax · 27 Apr 2006 at 18:33

same here mate .let it come out then see what people think about it .before you buy in to it .

drak3 · 28 Apr 2006 at 07:49

WHat makes you think conroe will be better then AM2 line? Previous experience with intel, like the current? lol

and the 50fps increase over the current (and old, yet AM2 to come) AMD X2s is just pathetic. I really wonder how Intel plans to take the desktop crown from AMD

Richdog · 28 Apr 2006 at 07:53

drak3 said:
WHat makes you think conroe will be better then AM2 line? Previous experience with intel, like the current? lol

No, just rather the obvious architectural strengths and results that we have seen in the preliminary benchmarks. I've never owned an Intel in my life but I have to acceded that Intel really seem to have got it right this time, going bac to the PIII style strengths. It likely (pretty much definately) will be faster than AM2 at the same clocks.

Just remember kiddies you won't be able to run SLI on it...

drak3 · 28 Apr 2006 at 07:55

The SLI wont be supported due low bandwidth btw, great improvements in architecture.

Current benchmarks show up to 50fps increase from current X2s.

Richdog · 28 Apr 2006 at 08:04

drak3 said:
The SLI wont be supported due low bandwidth btw, great improvements in architecture.

Thats due to Nvidias rather poor implementation of SLI on Intel with the recent CPU's. The crossfire rigs will outperform their AMD counterparts... simply due to more CPU power, and if Nvidia really wanted they could do the same with Conroe for SLI.

Current benchmarks show up to 50fps increase from current X2s.

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And thats not impressive?

drak3 · 28 Apr 2006 at 08:07

Also keep in mind that copmanies when giving out a certain CPU prototype they determine what kind of test will be run and thus determine the outcome to "feed: customers with their priducts streangths rather than weakeneses. I suggest we wait to test the stuff on our tables

humax · 28 Apr 2006 at 12:25

drak3 said:
WHat makes you think conroe will be better then AM2 line? Previous experience with intel, like the current? lol

and the 50fps increase over the current (and old, yet AM2 to come) AMD X2s is just pathetic. I really wonder how Intel plans to take the desktop crown from AMD

why do you think AMD X2s is just pathetic. ? i dont own one but most people seem to like AMD X2s

div0 · 28 Apr 2006 at 12:37

i'm not sure but i think he meant...

and the 50fps increase over the current AMD X2s is just pathetic

but even so it still seems pretty odd....

Dunky · 28 Apr 2006 at 12:48

Another AM2 / Conroe debate - I get sucked into these too often tbh. Anyway, the fact is we've seen ES results from both AM2 and Conroe and some of the benchmarks. Considering these were both ES, Conroe still way outperformed AM2 by a *significant* margin. The Anandtech Conroe review was really the first review we saw detailed benchmarks for Conroe. For both synthetic and real benchmarks, it beat an OC'd 939. You might say this is unfair? Well considering AM2 is basically still the K8 processor from 939 with an updated memory controller to support DDR2, it's not that unfair is it? Also considering improvements from DDR2 were only a few percent (even then it was negligible in certain tests and worse in one), it was as even as it could be.

We've also seen results from XS on Conroe ES which are consistant with each other and the Anandtech review. Although we should always take ES with a pinch of salt, considering how consistant the results are then I feel that we had a reason to look forward to Conroe. AM2 is more of a sideway move for AMD which allows it to move onto K8L (65nm) and beyond..although there is talk of AM3 which may use a different socket but I'd take that with a skip full of salt.

div0 · 28 Apr 2006 at 12:54

Dunky said:
Another AM2 / Conroe debate - I get sucked into these too often tbh. Anyway....

considering how consistant the results are then I feel that we had a reason to look forward to Conroe. AM2 is more of a sideway move for AMD which allows it to move onto K8L (65nm) and beyond

exactly my thoughts too

Stax10 · 21 May 2006 at 15:05

Surely nVidia will implement SLi with Conroe with a chipset of their own?

Is the bandwidth issue just the Intel chipset, not the CPU itself?

I am very interested in getting a Conroe chip, but I have 7900GTX SLi. There is no way I am going to change to Crossfire just because of a CPU change.

WatchTower · 22 May 2006 at 01:31

Isn't AMD bringing a new socket out next year. Mm If I start saving now I'll get one buy 2010 yay.

TVR_Fan · 22 May 2006 at 09:47

I would say wait, it looks like the current gen socket 939 motherboards will never support DDR2. Plus I bet we see a mix of BTX AM2 socket motherboards coming out.

Dunky · 22 May 2006 at 10:26

TVR_Fan said:
I would say wait, it looks like the current gen socket 939 motherboards will never support DDR2. Plus I bet we see a mix of BTX AM2 socket motherboards coming out.

Correct, since the memory controller is on CPU - a socket 939 processor will never support DDR2. Not too sure about the last point, BTX has been an exclusively Intel thing and hasn't really taken off (meant to help cooling but doesn't really have a significant difference over the standard ATX format - also AMD procs have never really had a problem with cooling so such a layout would be un-necessary). It could happen though but only if BTX takes off which I doubt...

Jay_t · 22 May 2006 at 10:33

BTX?

I thought that had been shelved, as the industry (apart from intel) didn't seem that keen. At least I hope thats the story, as I'd rather not have to buy a whole new case just so I can put everything in upside down. :rolleyes: