AMD Zen 2 - Threadripper 3rd gen thread

[Deleted member 66701]

So after seeing the Ryzen 3000 series of processors absolutely smash it, I'm excited to see what Threadripper 3rd gen can do.

Let's get the hype train going - use this thread to post news, leaks and your thoughts on TR3.

My guess for new TR stack:-

24 core - 4.8ghz single boost, 3.6ghz all core, 180w, 949usd
32 core - 5ghz single boost, 3.6ghz all core, 180w, 1249usd
48 core - 4.6ghz single boost, 3.2ghz all core, 250w, 1599usd
64 core - 4.6ghz single boost, 3.2ghz all core, 250w, 1999usd

 

[Deleted member 66701]

The lower tiers have all had a price reduction but the TR 2990WX which is the context here hasn't.
Why? Because it's the only one that isn't being challenged by Ryzen 3000 in pure CPU terms! Possibly.

Few places had it for 1400 at the weekend, few places have it for 1500 now. It's coming down. That's why i guessed at 2000usd/2000gbp for the 64 core and looking at each tier - you'll note it increases 300 > 350 > 400 for each tier, a pattern observed for prev TR2 releases. Also priced initial starting tier price in comparison with the gap between Ryzen and TR previously, although though there is room for +100usd on each tier there - but I can't see the entry tier TR being more than 1000usd and I don't think they'll want to breach the 2000usd ceiling either.

The 2950x wasn't being challenged by mainstream Ryzen, but they still knocked 15% off the price vs 1950x.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Not entirely sure if there will be a 64c variant, but I really hope there is. I can see there being 3 TR chips, or at max 4.

-24c/48t
-32c/64t
-48c/96t
-Possibly a 64c/128t if we're lucky.

What i dont see happening is the TR series starting with 16c again, which is massively pointless given the 3950x

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Won't the new Threadrippers have many more PCIE lanes?

Yeah, but I still see it as being a bit pointless, not sure if many people would go for a 16c threadripper

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Multiple NVME drives, 10 Gb ethernet.

multiple nvme drives when you only have a 16c processor? Pointless.

Also, Ive never understood the need for 10gb internet when barely any ISP's even offer 1gb speeds?

 

[Deleted member 209350]

I take it you've never worked in video production then.

You don't need crazy core counts if you're editing and rendering via GPU, but having a handful of them will keep the entire workstation subsystem nicely fed, especially when you're pulling your 4K 4:4:4 rushes off RAID NVMe. 10Gb is perfect for connecting to shared storage networks for the rushes, and then use the NVMe RAID for local rendering and previews.

Same can be said for games development, 3D modelling, CAD and engineering, etc. etc.

Nope I havent!

But I see, it makes more sense to me now though.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Internal networks.

I get that, but why would you need 10gb? Like I would genuinely like to know why a network would need a 10gb port, when lets say for example, your ISP only provides 200mb? Surely you dont need a 10gb line for that... Or am I mistaken? I feel like I am but I would just like to know.

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Not pointless at all, I have 8c and 4 NVMe shifts video about lovely, I don't have 10Gb yet but will do as my storage server is capable and I wish could dup stuff to it faster.

I see the uses, but when mainstream chips have 16c now, doesnt a 16c for the threadripper line seem a bit redundant? At least make it 24c to start with. At least thats what I think anyway, who knows what AMD will do

 

[Deleted member 209350]

You say you "get it" and then immediately return to a line of questioning regarding internet speeds, so I'm not sure you do "get it". It's like asking why you'd want WiFi 6 over WiFi AC or Gigabit Ethernet over 100 Mb/s Ethernet. For faster connectivity between devices, of course.

I meant I get that internal networks always seem to need 10gb network (like at my workplace) but that never makes sense to me, because the ISP can only provide 200mb?

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Internet access speed isn't everything. If you're working with files or file sets in the 10s or 100s of gigabytes on your LAN then 10Gb makes sense. Consider, if you will, as it's an approximation of a real-world example, that you are working on a model of something and the file set totals 100 GB. To transfer those files from your server to your PC will take approx 1000 seconds - over 15 minutes - on gigabit ethernet. Change that to 10 Gb and you're looking at under 2 minutes. Now consider that the person involved is very highly paid and 10 Gb pays for itself very quickly..

Ohhh okay I understand now! Thanks for explaining!

 

[Deleted member 209350]

Anyone else seen the leaks that show cut down versions of EPYC on TR?

Link?