AMD Zen 5 rumours

[Nitefly]

Do you think it's worth getting 8000 speed memory with an X870 board, I know it's still hit and miss but do you think this will improve with bios updates

Or is it just better to stick with a lower speed of memory

From what I’ve read, many boards won’t support those speeds.

Even when they do, it might only make a minor difference to 1% lows in gaming…

… a difference that is further eradicated by an X3D chip…

… and gaming at 4K.

You can get 6000 CL28 kits that are relatively inexpensive. Will a 8000+ CL38 kit give better FPS / be better value? Not sure.

My take is to go 6000 CL28 for now, maybe I’ll flirt with a higher speed kit later once compatibility has been ironed out with BIOS updates.

 

[Minstadave]

4 Dimms @CL32 and 6400? Aren't you doing well to get that?

4 single rank 16GB DIMMS aren't hard to run, it's 4 dual rank that's the real killer.

 

[Minstadave]

Do you think it's worth getting 8000 speed memory with an X870 board, I know it's still hit and miss but do you think this will improve with bios updates

Or is it just better to stick with a lower speed of memory

I can't see the point personally.

 

[welshrat]

The very top one is discounted right now.

Is it ? Can't see it. Although was thinking closer to 450 like the MSI carbon or Asus strix

 

[Joxeon]

Is it ? Can't see it. Although was thinking closer to 450 like the MSI carbon or Asus strix

It's £450 right now

 

[welshrat]

It's £450 right now

On OC ?

 

[Vakas]

I can't see the point personally.

It's a shame would be nice if everything worked properly out of the box regarding speeds

 

[arc@css]

A little way off before I move to a completely new system, but going by a quick check in HUB's video, the Gigabyte Elite (I think it was called) looks to be among the better 'value' motherboards and has good performance results.

It's funny, each time I go to spec a new board, I intend to opt for something different for a change, as it seems I end up with a Gigabyte product every time since, IIRC, 2008. The experience has been good for me with regard to their products, but it would be nice to try something else, e.g. an Asrock board.

 

[Legion]

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D 3D V-Cache CPU Specs Leak, Huge Base Clock Speed Uplift To 4.7 GHz & 120W TDP

Specifications of AMD's Ryzen 7 9800X3D 3D V-Cache CPU have been leaked, revealing its clock speeds and TDP figures.

wccftech.com

 

[Minstadave]

It's a shame would be nice if everything worked properly out of the box regarding speeds

It works, you can run higher speeds but the penalty for not running in sync with the Infinity Fabric makes it pointless pretty much.

 

[MyBrainz]

Prices dropping already..

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X drops to $599 for the first time, 9900X now 14% lower at $429 - VideoCardz.com

AMD Ryzen 9000 up to 14% cheaper Pre-Ryzen 9000X3D announcement price cuts? Newegg has just updated its pricing for AMD’s latest CPU series, the 9000. Currently, all four models are available at their lowest prices to date, with prices now 8% to 14% lower than what was announced in August. The...

videocardz.com

 

[Varys]

Just because they drop in US doesn't mean they will drop here. US prices for computer kit are way lower than UK anyway

 

[RSR]

I've done a bit more testing over the weekend, mainly working on the RAM side of things. I still need to fine tune the CO / CS rather than just using a -30 / - 5 offset and the 8200C34 profile is nearly done and ill post a full UEFI setup once this has been completed.

System Spec:

Asus X870E Crosshare Hero
G.Skill 32GB - F5-8000J3848H16GX2-TR5NS
Optimus Foundation AM5 Water Block
Thermal Grizzly - AM5 Contact Frame
W11 24H2 LTSC
PBO Enabled with limits removed

Base X870E Hero UEFI Settings (8000C32):

Spoiler: Base X870E Hero UEFI Settings:

[2024/10/20 19:01:42]
Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
eCLK Mode [Asynchronous mode]
BCLK1 Frequency [100.0000]
BCLK2 Frequency [100.0000]
Memory Frequency [DDR5-8000MHz]
FCLK Frequency [2200 MHz]
Core Performance Boost [Auto]
CPU Core Ratio [Auto]
Core VID [Auto]
CCX0 Ratio [Auto]
CCX0 Ratio [Auto]
Dynamic OC Switcher [Auto]
Tcl [32]
Trcd [46]
Trp [38]
Tras [58]
Trc [96]
Twr [48]
Refresh Interval [65535]
Trfc1 [480]
Trfc2 [480]
Trfcsb [480]
Trtp [12]
TrrdL [8]
TrrdS [8]
Tfaw [32]
TwtrL [16]
TwtrS [4]
TrdrdScl [8]
TrdrdSc [1]
TrdrdSd [1]
Trdrddd [1]
TwrwrScl [1]
TwrwrSc [1]
TwrwrSd [1]
TwrwrDd [1]
Twrrd [8]
Trdwr [16]
IBUF_LPWR_MODE [Auto]
ADDR_CMD_MODE [Buf]
M_ORDERING [Auto]
S_COL_WIDTH [Auto]
MC_SVA_TRIM0 [Auto]
MC_SVA_TRIM1 [Auto]
MC_SVA_TRIM2 [Auto]
MMCM_MULT_F [Auto]
Read Drift Adjustment P0 [Auto]
Write Drift Adjustment P0 [Auto]
Read Preamble P0 [Auto]
Write Preamble P0 [Auto]
PHY VrefDAC0 P0 Control [Auto]
PHY VrefDAC1 P0 Control [Auto]
PMU DQ Vref P0 Control [Auto]
ARdPtrInitVal P0 Control [Auto]
CA ODT GroupA [Auto]
CK ODT GroupA [Auto]
CS ODT GroupA [Auto]
CA ODT GroupB [Auto]
CK ODT GroupB [Auto]
CS ODT GroupB [Auto]
Processor ODT P state mode [Sync all P-states]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT Impedance RTT_NOM_WR P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_NOM_RD P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_WR P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_PARK P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance DQS_RTT_PARK P0 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Proc CS Drive Strength [Auto]
Proc CK Drive Strength [Auto]
Proc CA Drive Strength [Auto]
Proc Data Drive Strength [Auto]
CPU On-Die Termination [Auto]
DRAM Data Drive Strength [Auto]
Rtt Nom Wr [Auto]
Rtt Nom Rd [Auto]
Rtt Wr [Auto]
Rtt Park [Auto]
Rtt Park Dqs [Auto]
Power Down Enable [Auto]
Memory Context Restore [Auto]
UCLK DIV1 MODE [Auto]
CA Tx Phase Shift Clk [Auto]
CS Tx Phase Shift Clk [Auto]
CK Tx Phase Shift Clk [Auto]
CA Rx Phase Shift Clk [Auto]
CS Rx Phase Shift Clk [Auto]
CK Rx Phase Shift Clk [Auto]
FIFO Wr En Fine Delay [Auto]
POC Sample PD [Auto]
Bank Swap Mode [Auto]
Mem Over Clock Fail Count [6]
Prochot VRM Throttling [Auto]
Peak Current Control [Auto]
Medium Load Boostit [Auto]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Manual]
PPT Limit [Auto]
TDC Limit [Auto]
EDC Limit [Auto]
Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar [Auto]
CPU Boost Clock Override [Auto]
Per-Core Boost Clock Limit [Auto]
Platform Thermal Throttle Limit [Auto]
Curve Optimizer [Auto]
Min Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Min Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Min Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
Low Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Low Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Low Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
Med Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Med Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Med Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
High Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
High Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
High Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
Max Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Max Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Max Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
CO Load Guard [Auto]
VRM Initialization Check [Enabled]
Voltage training [Auto]
CPU Load-line Calibration [Auto]
Segment2 Loadline [Auto]
CPU Current Reporting Scale [Auto]
Core Voltage Suspension [Auto]
CPU VRM Switching Frequency [Auto]
VRM Spread Spectrum [Auto]
CPU Power Duty Control [Extreme]
CPU Power Phase Control [Auto]
VDDSOC Current Reporting Scale [Auto]
VDDSOC Switching Frequency [Auto]
VDDSOC Power Phase Control [Auto]
DRAM Switching Frequency [Auto]
DRAM Power Phase Control [Extreme]
MISC Switching Frequency [Auto]
Performance Bias [Auto]
Clock Spread Spectrum [Auto]
BCLK1 Amplitude [Auto]
BCLK1 Slew Rate [Auto]
BCLK2 Amplitude [Auto]
BCLK2 Slew Rate [Auto]
Stretch mode for L3 DFLL [Auto]
1.8V PLL Voltage [Auto]
1.8V Standby Voltage [Auto]
Misc_ALW [Auto]
Chipset0 VDD Voltage [Auto]
Chipset1 VDD Voltage [Auto]
CPU 3.3V [Auto]
DDR_testA [Auto]
DDR_testB [Auto]
SMU_Comp1 [Auto]
SMU_Comp2 [Auto]
SMU_Comp3 [Auto]
R1 [Auto]
R2 [Auto]
R3 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 1 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 1 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 2 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 2 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 3 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 3 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 4 [Auto]
Sense MI Skew 4 [Auto]
Raise RComp [Auto]
Algorithm 1 [Auto]
Algorithm 2 [Auto]
Algorithm 3 [Auto]
CCD Priority Memory Activity Threshold [1070]
CCD Priority Hysteresis [Auto]
Cooler Efficiency Customize [Keep Training]
Cooler Re-evaluation Algorithm [Normal]
Optimism Scale [100]
CPU Core Voltage [Auto]
CPU SOC Voltage [Manual Mode]
- VDDSOC Voltage Override [1.20000]
CPU VDDIO / MC Voltage [Manual Mode]
- VDDIO Override [1.45080]
Misc Voltage [Manual Mode]
- Misc Voltage Override [1.15000]
VDDP Voltage [1.150]
High DRAM Voltage Mode [Enabled]
DRAM VDD Voltage [1.67000]
DRAM VDDQ Voltage [1.64000]
VDDG CCD Voltage [Auto]
VDDG IOD Voltage [Auto]
PMIC Force Continuous Current Mode [Auto]
PMIC Voltages [Sync All PMICs]
SPD HUB VLDO (1.8V) [1.80000]
SPD HUB VDDIO (1.0V) [1.00000]
Memory VDD Voltage [1.67000]
Memory VDDQ Voltage [1.64000]
Memory VPP Voltage [Auto]
Memory Voltage Switching Frequency [Auto]
Memory Current Capability [Auto]
Security Device Support [Enabled]
SHA256 PCR Bank [Enabled]
Pending operation [None]
Platform Hierarchy [Enabled]
Storage Hierarchy [Enabled]
Endorsement Hierarchy [Enabled]
Physical Presence Spec Version [1.3]
Disable Block Sid [Disabled]
Firmware TPM switch [Enable Firmware TPM]
Erase fTPM NV for factory reset [Enabled]
Password Protection of Runtime Variables [Enable]
PSS Support [Enabled]
NX Mode [Enabled]
SVM Mode [Disabled]
Above 4G Decoding [Enabled]
Resize BAR Support [Enabled]
SR-IOV Support [Disabled]
Legacy USB Support [Enabled]
XHCI Hand-off [Enabled]
USB Mass Storage Driver Support [Enabled]
USB DISK 3.0 PMAP [Auto]
USB DISK 3.0 PMAP [Auto]
U10G_C3 [Enabled]
U10G_4 [Enabled]
U20G_C6 [Enabled]
U5G_8 [Enabled]
U10G_9 [Enabled]
U10G_10 [Enabled]
U5G_E1 [Enabled]
U5G_E2 [Enabled]
U5G_E3 [Enabled]
USB_12 [Enabled]
USB_13 [Enabled]
USB_14 [Enabled]
USB_15 [Enabled]
U20G_C18 [Enabled]
U10G_20 [Enabled]
U10G_21 [Enabled]
U10G_22 [Enabled]
U10G_C23 [Enabled]
Network Stack [Disabled]
Device [N/A]
SATA Controller(s) [Enabled]
SATA Mode [AHCI]
NVMe RAID mode [Disabled]
SMART Self Test [Enabled]
SATA6G_1 [Enabled]
SATA6G_1 Hot Plug [Disabled]
SATA6G_2 [Enabled]
SATA6G_2 Hot Plug [Disabled]
SATA6G_3 [Enabled]
SATA6G_3 Hot Plug [Disabled]
SATA6G_4 [Enabled]
SATA6G_4 Hot Plug [Disabled]
Restore AC Power Loss [Power Off]
ErP Ready [Disabled]
Max Power Saving [Disabled]
Power On By PCI-E [Disabled]
Power On By RTC [Disabled]
Native ASPM [Auto]
CPU PCIE ASPM Mode Control [Auto]
PCIEX16_1 Bandwidth Bifurcation Configuration [Auto Mode]
PCIEX16_2 Bandwidth Bifurcation Configuration [Auto Mode]
USB Audio Controller [Enabled]
Realtek LAN Controller [Enabled]
Intel LAN Controller [Enabled]
Wi-Fi Controller [Disabled]
Bluetooth Controller [Disabled]
When system is in working state [All On]
Windows Dynamic Lighting [Disabled]
Q-Code LED Function [Auto]
When system is in sleep, hibernate or soft off states [Aura Off]
USB power delivery in Soft Off state (S5) [Enabled]
Alteration Mode Switch [PCIE Link Speed]
PCIEX16_1 Link Mode [Auto]
PCIEX16_2 Link Mode [Auto]
M.2_2 Link Mode [Auto]
M.2_3 Link Mode [Auto]
M.2_1 Link Mode [Auto]
Chipset_1 Link Mode [Auto]
SlimSAS Link Mode [Auto]
Chipset_2 Link Mode [Auto]
M.2_5 Link Mode [Auto]
M.2_4 Link Mode [Auto]
Primary Video Device [PCIE Video]
Integrated Graphics [Disabled]
Global C-state Control [Auto]
IOMMU [Auto]
ECC [Auto]
SMT Control [Auto]
Core Performance Boost [Auto]
L1 Stream HW Prefetcher [Auto]
L2 Stream HW Prefetcher [Auto]
L1 Stride Prefetcher [Auto]
L1 Region Prefetcher [Auto]
L1 Burst Prefetch Mode [Auto]
L2 Up/Down Prefetcher [Auto]
Core Watchdog Timer Enable [Auto]
RedirectForReturnDis [Auto]
Power Supply Idle Control [Auto]
Opcache Control [Auto]
Streaming Stores Control [Auto]
Local APIC Mode [Auto]
ACPI _CST C1 Declaration [Auto]
Platform First Error Handling [Auto]
MCA error thresh enable [Auto]
MCA FruText [True]
SMU and PSP Debug Mode [Auto]
PPIN Opt-in [Auto]
REP-MOV/STOS Streaming [Auto]
Enhanced REP MOVSB/STOSB [Auto]
Fast Short REP MOVSB (FSRM) [Auto]
SNP Memory (RMP Table) Coverage [Auto]
SMEE [Auto]
Action on BIST Failure [Auto]
Log Transparent Errors [Auto]
AVX512 [Auto]
MONITOR and MWAIT disable [Auto]
Corrector Branch Predictor [Auto]
PAUSE Delay [Auto]
CPU Speculative Store Modes [Auto]
SVM Lock [Auto]
SVM Enable [Auto]
Latency Under Load (LUL) [Auto]
Memory interleaving [Auto]
Memory interleaving size [Auto]
DRAM map inversion [Auto]
Location of private memory regions [Auto]
ACPI SRAT L3 Cache As NUMA Domain [Auto]
Disable DF to external downstream IP Sync Flood Propagation [Auto]
Disable DF sync flood propagation [Auto]
Freeze DF module queues on error [Auto]
DF Cstates [Auto]
PSP error injection support [False]
Active Memory Timing Settings [Auto]
Processor CK drive strengths [Auto]
Processor CA drive strengths [Auto]
Processor CS drive strengths [Auto]
CA ODT GroupA [Auto]
CK ODT GroupA [Auto]
CS ODT GroupA [Auto]
CA ODT GroupB [Auto]
CK ODT GroupB [Auto]
CS ODT GroupB [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT Impedance RTT_NOM_WR P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_NOM_RD P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_WR P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_PARK P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance DQS_RTT_PARK P0 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Up P1 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Down P1 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Up P1 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Down P1 [Auto]
Dram ODT Impedance RTT_NOM_WR P1 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_NOM_RD P1 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_WR P1 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_PARK P1 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance DQS_RTT_PARK P1 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Up P1 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Down P1 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Up P2 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Down P2 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Up P2 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Down P2 [Auto]
Dram ODT Impedance RTT_NOM_WR P2 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_NOM_RD P2 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_WR P2 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_PARK P2 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance DQS_RTT_PARK P2 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Up P2 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Down P2 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Up P3 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Down P3 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Up P3 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Down P3 [Auto]
Dram ODT Impedance RTT_NOM_WR P3 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_NOM_RD P3 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_WR P3 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_PARK P3 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance DQS_RTT_PARK P3 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Up P3 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Down P3 [Auto]
Power Down Enable [Auto]
Disable Memory Error Injection [Auto]
TSME [Auto]
Data Scramble [Auto]
Chipselect Interleaving [Auto]
Address Hash Bank [Auto]
Address Hash CS [Auto]
Address Hash Subchannel [Auto]
BankSwapMode [Auto]
DFE Read Training [Auto]
DRAM PDA Enumerate ID Programming Mode [Auto]
TX DFE Taps [Auto]
PPT Control [Auto]
DDR Training Runtime Reduction [Auto]
Rx Burst Length [Auto]
Tx Burst Length [Auto]
RX2D_TrainOpt [Auto]
TX2D_TrainOpt [Auto]
RX DFE Taps [Auto]
MBIST Enable [Auto]
Memory Context Restore [Auto]
Read Drift Adjustment [Auto]
Read Drift Adjustment P0 [Auto]
Read Drift Adjustment P1 [Auto]
Read Drift Adjustment P2 [Auto]
Read Drift Adjustment P3 [Auto]
Write Drift Adjustment [Auto]
Write Drift Adjustment P0 [Auto]
Write Drift Adjustment P1 [Auto]
Write Drift Adjustment P2 [Auto]
Write Drift Adjustment P3 [Auto]
PCIe ARI Support [Auto]
PCIe All Port ECRC [Auto]
Advanced Error Reporting (AER) [Auto]
PCIe ARI Enumeration [Auto]
UMA Version [Auto]
GPU Host Translation Cache [Auto]
NB Azalia [Auto]
Audio IOs [Auto]
PCIe loopback Mode [Auto]
Persistence mode for legacy endpoints [Auto]
Retimer margining support [Auto]
TDP Control [Auto]
ECO Mode [Disable]
PPT Control [Auto]
Thermal Control [Auto]
TDC Control [Auto]
EDC Control [Auto]
Fan Control [Auto]
VDDP Voltage Control [Auto]
Infinity Fabric Frequency and Dividers [Auto]
SyncFifo Mode Override [Auto]
Sustained PowerLimit [0]
Fast PPT Limit [0]
Slow PPT Limit [0]
Slow PPT Time Constant [0]
GFXOFF [Auto]
CPU Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Package Temperature [Monitor]
MotherBoard Temperature [Monitor]
VRM Temperature [Monitor]
Chipset 1 Temperature [Monitor]
Chipset 2 Temperature [Monitor]
T_Sensor Temperature [Monitor]
DIMM A1 Temperature [Monitor]
DIMM A2 Temperature [Monitor]
DIMM B1 Temperature [Monitor]
DIMM B2 Temperature [Monitor]
CPU Fan Speed [Monitor]
CPU Optional Fan Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 1 Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 2 Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 3 Speed [Monitor]
Chassis Fan 4 Speed [Monitor]
Water Pump+ Speed [Monitor]
AIO Pump Speed [Monitor]
CPU Core Voltage [Monitor]
12V Voltage [Monitor]
5V Voltage [Monitor]
3.3V Voltage [Monitor]
CPU VDDIO / MC Voltage [Monitor]
CHIPSET Standby Voltage [Monitor]
CPU Fan Q-Fan Control [PWM Mode]
CPU Fan Profile [Full Speed]
Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Control [Auto Detect]
Chassis Fan 1 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 1 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 1 Step Up [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 1 Step Down [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 1 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Control [Auto Detect]
Chassis Fan 2 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 2 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 2 Step Up [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 2 Step Down [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 2 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 3 Q-Fan Control [Auto Detect]
Chassis Fan 3 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 3 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 3 Step Up [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 3 Step Down [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 3 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Chassis Fan 4 Q-Fan Control [Auto Detect]
Chassis Fan 4 Profile [Standard]
Chassis Fan 4 Q-Fan Source [CPU]
Chassis Fan 4 Step Up [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 4 Step Down [Level 0]
Chassis Fan 4 Speed Low Limit [200 RPM]
Water Pump+ Q-Fan Control [Auto Detect]
Water Pump+ Profile [Full Speed]
AIO Pump Q-Fan Control [Auto Detect]
AIO Pump Profile [Full Speed]
Launch CSM [Disabled]
OS Type [Windows UEFI mode]
Secure Boot Mode [Standard]
Fast Boot [Enabled]
Next Boot after AC Power Loss [Fast Boot]
Boot Logo Display [Auto]
POST Delay Time [3 sec]
Bootup NumLock State [On]
Wait For 'F1' If Error [Enabled]
Option ROM Messages [Force BIOS]
Interrupt 19 Capture [Disabled]
AMI Native NVMe Driver Support [Enabled]
Setup Mode [Advanced Mode]
BIOS Image Rollback Support [Enabled]
Publish HII Resources [Disabled]
Flexkey [Reset]
Setup Animator [Disabled]
Full HD Setup [Enabled]
Load from Profile [3]
Profile Name [New Base]
Save to Profile [3]
DIMM Slot Number [DIMM_A2]
Hotkey F3 [Toggle ASUS EZ Flash 3]
Hotkey F4 [Boot from UEFI USB]
Download & Install ASUS DriverHub app [Disabled]
Special Display Features [Disabled]
D3Cold Support [Disabled]
Discrete GPU _DSM Function A [Disabled]
Discrete GPU _DSM Function B [Disabled]
NVIDIA DGPU Power Enable [Disabled]
Non-Eval Discrete GPU Support [Enabled]
Discrete GPU HPD Circuitry [OR Circuitry]
Discrete GPU's USB Port [Keep Default Setting]
Discrete GPU's SSID/SVID [Keep Default Setting]
Discrete GPU BOMACO Support [Disabled]
USB4 (ASM4242 Controller) Support [Enabled]
PCIe Bus Number [48]
PCIe Non-Prefetchable MMIO (MB) [384]
PCIe Prefetchable MMIO (GB) [128]
ACPI D3 Support [D3Hot]
XHCI Port0 Speed [Gen2x2]
XHCI Port1 Speed [Gen2x2]
AMD Variable Protection [Enabled]
Processor Aggregator Device [Disabled]
HDMI 3.0G Tx SLEW [Disabled]
CPU Frequency [0]
CPU Voltage [0]
SMT Control [Auto]
Prochot VRM Throttling [Auto]
Peak Current Control [Auto]
EXPO [Auto]
Optimized Performance Profile [Auto]
Active Memory Timing Settings [Auto]
Processor CS drive strengths [Auto]
Processor CK drive strengths [Auto]
Processor CA drive strengths [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths [Auto]
Processor ODT impedance pull up p0 [Auto]
Processor ODT Impedance Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Processor DQ drive strengths Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Up P0 [Auto]
Dram DQ drive strengths Pull Down P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT Impedance RTT_NOM_WR P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT Impedance RTT_NOM_RD P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_WR P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance RTT_PARK P0 [Auto]
Dram ODT impedance DQS_RTT_PARK P0 [Auto]
Read Preamble P0 [Auto]
Write Preamble P0 [Auto]
PHY VrefDAC0 P0 [0]
PHY VrefDAC1 P0 [0]
PMU DQ Vref P0 [0]
ARdPtrInitVal P0 Control [Auto]
Power Down Enable [Disabled]
RX2D_TrainOpt [Auto]
TX2D_TrainOpt [Auto]
RX DFE Taps [Auto]
TX DFE Taps [Auto]
Read Drift Adjustment P0 [Auto]
Write Drift Adjustment P0 [Auto]
DDR5 Nitro Mode [Auto]
Infinity Fabric Frequency and Dividers [Auto]
UCLK DIV1 MODE [UCLK=MEMCLK/2]
Precision Boost Overdrive [Advanced]
PBO Limits [Motherboard]
Precision Boost Overdrive Scalar Ctrl [Auto]
CPU Boost Clock Override [Disabled]
Platform Thermal Throttle Ctrl [Auto]
GFX Curve Optimizer [Disable]
Curve Optimizer [Disable]
Min Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Min Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Min Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
Low Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Low Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Low Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
Med Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Med Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Med Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
High Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
High Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
High Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
Max Frequency - Low Temperature [Auto]
Max Frequency - Med Temperature [Auto]
Max Frequency - High Temperature [Auto]
VDDG Voltage Control [Auto]
VDDP Voltage Control [Auto]
SoC/Uncore OC Mode [Auto]
SoC Voltage [0]
LN2 Mode [Auto]
VDD Misc Control [Auto]
LCLK Frequency Control [Auto]
VDDIO Ctrl [Auto]
Enable Platform PMIC Control [Auto]
VPP Ctrl [Auto]
ECO Mode [Auto]

8000C32 - RAM Testing:

RAM Kit: F5-8000J3848H16GX2-TR5NS

DRAM VDD Voltage [1.67000]
DRAM VDDQ Voltage [1.64000]

AIDA64 - Cache and Memory Benchmark

ramtest - Zen Timings - HWinfo

That's 8000 stable, that's using the same timings as @LtMatt

Updated Bench Results (These will mostly be 8200C34):

R24 - 2762

R23 - 49308

GB6 - ST - 3737 MT - 26245

ASUS System Product Name - Geekbench

Benchmark results for an ASUS System Product Name with an AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor.

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CPU-Z - ST - 948 MT - 18947

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X @ 5585.39 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[6ul40x] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2024-10-19 23:45:57) - MB: Asus ROG CROSSHAIR X870E HERO - RAM: 32768 MB

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AIDA64 - AES - 806689MB/s

AIDA64 - SHA3 - 12564MB/s

 

[Grim5]

Cannot go higher?

 

[RSR]

Cannot go higher?

It can, as I have 8200 working at the moment with no real issues. I thought it would be good to post an 8000 example with a bit more detail than what HUB did.

8400 is a bit more of an faf but not looked at that in any great detail

 

[RSR]

May as well at these which are on the same system, I need to repeat the same test on my other systems and with a 4090.

9950X / 7900XTX with HT

9950X / 7900XTX with No HT

 

[MikeB]

So what do we reckon for the 9800x3d, 400,450 or 500 , right now I can get a 7800x3d and a x670e board for 550, if the 9800x3d hits 450 or higher and has only a 10% at best performance hike, I’m looking at 20% etxtra at least for ten per cent performance uplift I’m unlikely to ever see (game at uw 1440p 165mhz with a 7900xtx)

I am all for buying new tech but unless it’s 400 I am struggling with the value proposition.

Am I missing anything?

 

[Grim5]

It can, as I have 8200 working at the moment with no real issues. I thought it would be good to post an 8000 example with a bit more detail than what HUB did.

8400 is a bit more of an faf but not looked at that in any great detail

I think HUB maxed out at 8300 on the same board, so sounds about right

 

[Deleted User 456458]

May as well at these which are on the same system, I need to repeat the same test on my other systems and with a 4090.

9950X / 7900XTX with HT

9950X / 7900XTX with No HT

For comparison a 7800x3d tuned:

CO, 8000 tuned mem and 2200fclk

 

[RSR]

For comparison a 7800x3d tuned:

CO, 8000 tuned mem and 2200fclk

What OS is that's missing? As W10 is a lot faster. That's about on parr with the 14900KS