AMD Zen 5 rumours

[HighlandeR]

amd-starts-shipping-ryzen-9000-review-samples

 

[Rab]

loads of reviews real soon, here's hoping they good. skipping the 7xx series for this .

 

[Joxeon]

So far most tests I've seen of memory over 7000MT with 2:1 mode shown that in most cases timings matter more than speed. It's usually better to run 6400MT with tighter timings than the faster modules. But it depends on use case. There's a reason AMD said new CPUs have sweet spot of 6400MT 1:1.

They both have same memory controller apparently (current and 9k series), so should behave in almost the same (if not identical) way with memory

What about when you start to get to 8000mhz and above, is there a tipping point where running 2-1 mode becomes better than 1-1.

 

[Tommy_Here]

Super hyped for this! Skipped 5000 & 7000 series but my 9900k has definitely had its day..

 

[Tinek]

What about when you start to get to 8000mhz and above, is there a tipping point where running 2-1 mode becomes better than 1-1.

It reminds to be seen, so far I've not seen tests that would show definite advantage of faster memory Vs 1:1 one with tighter timings.

 

[Nutty667]

+10%S
- 2% M

That's...not great is it.
Surely, suuuurely that's not right :/

It doesn't match here;

Ryzen 9 9950X processor - single-core is +14% higher than Ryzen 9 7950X, multi-core is +7%

New benchmark scores for the 16-core AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor were revealed, showcasing its performance enhancements over previous models. The 16-core processor, identified as 100-000001277, utilizes two Zen 5 CCDs and one IOD, supporting 16 cores and 32 threads.

www.guru3d.com

They show the 7950X MT score at 19227.

 

[Rob_B]

I guess that's better, but as good as hoped by most people?
We'll soon(ish) find out

 

[Nutty667]

I guess that's better, but as good as hoped by most people?
We'll soon(ish) find out

Yes, apparently review samples have shipped already. Should see reviews sometimes in next 3 weeks.

 

[TrixP10]

seems good to me

AMD Ryzen 9 9950X CPU Tested At 160W TDP, Blazes Past 230W Ryzen 9 7950X With 16% Performance Uplift

AMD's Ryzen 9 9950X "Zen 5" CPU boasts incredible performance at a TDP of just 160W, blazing past both the Core i9-14900K & Ryzen 9 7950X.

wccftech.com

hopefully it's stable

 

[pastymuncher]

Hopefully that turns out to be genuine. It's cool running to although it doesn't say what cooler was used. Looking good.

 

[FredFlint]

Hopefully that turns out to be genuine. It's cool running to although it doesn't say what cooler was used. Looking good.

The 7x chips run cool when the power is dropped, its the boost that jacks up the heat.
7950X at 65W TDP(~88W) is ~40-55C ( depending on ambient temp ) at 100% load using a 360 AIO.

 

[Dave2150]

Zen5 X3D is going to be amazing

 

[LtMatt]

I feel like we are going to need a 9000 series owners thread of some description.

 

[wookiee87]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryz...e-boost-in-blender-over-ryzen-9-7950x-at-230w

again like before scarily good temps even at 230w, have AMD done some black magic or a deal with the devil? XD edit, setup was on watercooling, no word what kind of rad or pump.

 

[Jamin280672]

It doesn't match here;

Ryzen 9 9950X processor - single-core is +14% higher than Ryzen 9 7950X, multi-core is +7%

New benchmark scores for the 16-core AMD Ryzen 9 9950X processor were revealed, showcasing its performance enhancements over previous models. The 16-core processor, identified as 100-000001277, utilizes two Zen 5 CCDs and one IOD, supporting 16 cores and 32 threads.

www.guru3d.com

They show the 7950X MT score at 19227.

But the 9950X only scored 20550, thats like 1 or 2% faster in synthetics, you're not going to notice any real world performance difference at all.

 

[Nutty667]

But the 9950X only scored 20550, thats like 1 or 2% faster in synthetics, you're not going to notice any real world performance difference at all.

Depends how good the benchmark is.
I think there'll be a decent uplift in games given the decent single threaded performance.

 

[Firegod]

ASRock just dropped another bios for my board, guessing there'll be others too. Second one this now for the new ryzen chips. This one says "9000 series optimisations." So go check people if you are planning on buying the new cpus, get your bios upto date.

I'm just flashing now.... Ooo errr.

 

[Dave2150]

Depends how good the benchmark is.
I think there'll be a decent uplift in games given the decent single threaded performance.

AMD have said that Zen5 will not be faster than Zen4x3d in most games, on average. We'll see big gains in productivity and general compute, but will have to wait for Zen5X3D for a big gaming performance increase.

Hopefully Zen5X3D and ArrowLake from Intel launch together around the 5090 release, will be interesting times

 

[Rob_B]

I'd not heard that before, so for anyone else here's an article about it - https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-com...heyll-be-close-improved-3d-v-cache-coming-too

 

[humbug]

After 2 generations of 3D Stacked Cache it wouldn't surprise me if AMD didn't some more development work on it for the third generation.