AMD Zen 5 rumours

[Tetras]

CPU prices have never bothered me. I find it odd that people will spend easily £1,000+ on a GPU but don't like spending £3-400 on a CPU, which for me personally, I tend to keep longer than any GPU (I kept my 5800x for 3 years and bought it on release - £428.99 from OcUK). And it is fine if people don't want to buy straight away but if I see any of you buying a new GPU over £300 I'll not be happy.

I think that's partly because a new graphics card is a really visible thing, whereas CPUs are nearly irrelevant past a certain point, so they're a way harder sell at £300-400+.

I'd say that's why there is hype over the X3D and we're prepared to pay for it, but not the other CPUs, because the X3D is the only CPU that has a noticeable impact.

It is pretty easy to ignore a CPU upgrade for 3 generations and not even notice, but not sure I'd say the same about high-end graphics.

 

[Ashley Long]

It was around £450 at launch? That’s quite a lot for an 8 core these days, after 3 months it was going for around £370 which is probably a more reasonable price with the £450 being the early adopters tax.

So you gave up 3 months to save £70 (£23 a month). That might be worth it if it's a small upgrade, but there will always be a new CPU or a price drop upcoming if you wait.

 

[Varys]

What we looking at for x3d then £500 ish ?

 

[alec]

unlike most here, I don't really care for X3D models
What I want is improved responsiveness/latency.

I'm pulling the trigger if 9950X is under 600 and exceeds 20% faster than my 7700X in browser benchmarks
Or even better if 9700X could be tweaked to match 9950 in single thread

 

[Joxeon]

So you gave up 3 months to save £70 (£23 a month). That might be worth it if it's a small upgrade, but there will always be a new CPU or a price drop upcoming if you wait.

CPUs will be cheaper, boards will be cheaper especially the current stuff once the new chipsets arrive, ram continues to fall so the saving could be a couple of hundred in the end.

PCs are expensive these days so any savings are not to be sniffed at.

I’ve been putting together parts for my new build since the start of the year and got everything so far on a deal which has saved about £300

 

[Tetras]

unlike most here, I don't really care for X3D models
What I want is improved responsiveness/latency.

I'm pulling the trigger if 9950X is under 600 and exceeds 20% faster than my 7700X in browser benchmarks
Or even better if 9700X could be tweaked to match 9950 in single thread

Latency? Browser benchmarks? Are you some kind of minute-by-minute trader, or a scalper of pricing errors?

 

[alec]

Latency? Browser benchmarks? Are you some kind of minute-by-minute trader, or a scalper of pricing errors?

In other tasks CPUs have been fast enough to not make much difference.

But responsiveness is something that you will perceive in all desktop activity. And browser benchmarks show that. Not that I'm looking for 2ms faster webpage render. but its a good proxy for nicer desktop experience
And same sort of improvements would often improve 1% low fps. Again, metric only captured by benchmarks, but you will feel 1% stutters

 

[Ashley Long]

CPUs will be cheaper, boards will be cheaper especially the current stuff once the new chipsets arrive, ram continues to fall so the saving could be a couple of hundred in the end.

PCs are expensive these days so any savings are not to be sniffed at.

I’ve been putting together parts for my new build since the start of the year and got everything so far on a deal which has saved about £300

Sorry i just reread what i wrote, i wasn't intending to "call you out" more put a value on the difference as everyone has a different "Time Vs Money" ratio. £20 is a few pints in London, drinking and PC's are expensive these days!

 

[Caracus2k]

It was around £450 at launch? That’s quite a lot for an 8 core these days, after 3 months it was going for around £370 which is probably a more reasonable price with the £450 being the early adopters tax.

AMD cpu prices certainly seem to drop off fairly quickly, especially at the top end,where as Intel CPU'S rarely see drops up until going EOL.

Previous notable examples

1800x dropped fairly quickly down from £500 / 500 dollars down to 469 dollars within three months and then 359 dollars early the year after relase (9 months after release)

The 5950x and the 7950x dropped from their typical UK price of £750 within a year of release.

Drops on previous X3d chips as well


It's certainly worth waiting 3-4 months after relase if you can.

 

[Deleted User 456458]

Italian Zen 5 Review: Ryzen 9 9900X falls short against Ryzen 7 7800X3D in gaming - VideoCardz.com

Ryzen 9 9900X vs 7800X3D in gaming SaddyTech has the world’s first gaming review of Zen5. Italian tech reviewer SaddyTech has obtained a sample of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 9 9900X processor shortly before its launch. Officially, these processors are set to be released next week, but it seems there...

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I expect the prices to fall quickly on these esp when x3d variants are out.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Italian Zen 5 Review: Ryzen 9 9900X falls short against Ryzen 7 7800X3D in gaming - VideoCardz.com

Ryzen 9 9900X vs 7800X3D in gaming SaddyTech has the world’s first gaming review of Zen5. Italian tech reviewer SaddyTech has obtained a sample of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 9 9900X processor shortly before its launch. Officially, these processors are set to be released next week, but it seems there...

videocardz.com

I expect the prices to fall quickly on these esp when x3d variants are out.

Six core CCD is probably not helping.

 

[Joxeon]

Italian Zen 5 Review: Ryzen 9 9900X falls short against Ryzen 7 7800X3D in gaming - VideoCardz.com

Ryzen 9 9900X vs 7800X3D in gaming SaddyTech has the world’s first gaming review of Zen5. Italian tech reviewer SaddyTech has obtained a sample of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 9 9900X processor shortly before its launch. Officially, these processors are set to be released next week, but it seems there...

videocardz.com

I expect the prices to fall quickly on these esp when x3d variants are out.

Ram speed 7200 with IF 2400, glad I didn’t buy any ram yet, might be worth getting a high speed kit now before the panic buying raises price

Something like this could be just the ticket.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x TeamGroup Delta RGB 32GB (2X16GB) DDR5 PC5-57600C34 7200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (FF3D532G7200HC34ADC01) (SKU: MY-0B5-TG) = £119.99

Total: £123.98 (includes delivery: £3.99)​

 

[Tetras]

Ram speed 7200 with IF 2400, glad I didn’t buy any ram yet, might be worth getting a high speed kit now before the panic buying raises price

Would be very surprised if they can all do that I guess 9900X wouldn't be a top bin though.

 

[Faztastic]

Upgrade time for me after so many years

 

[Stu999]

When will the review embargo lift do you think? This week or say, Monday, next week?

 

[StarShock]

When will the review embargo lift do you think? This week or say, Monday, next week?

My guess Tuesday at 2pm bst

 

[JediFragger]

Italian Zen 5 Review: Ryzen 9 9900X falls short against Ryzen 7 7800X3D in gaming - VideoCardz.com

Ryzen 9 9900X vs 7800X3D in gaming SaddyTech has the world’s first gaming review of Zen5. Italian tech reviewer SaddyTech has obtained a sample of AMD’s upcoming Ryzen 9 9900X processor shortly before its launch. Officially, these processors are set to be released next week, but it seems there...

videocardz.com

I expect the prices to fall quickly on these esp when x3d variants are out.

Hilarious that the 7800X3D also uses HALF of the wattage of the 9900X!

 

[Grim5]

Hilarious that the 7800X3D also uses HALF of the wattage of the 9900X!

Hilarious but normal. My 7950x uses 120watts while gaming compared to 50-60watts you see on a 7800x3d

 

[kitch9]

unlike most here, I don't really care for X3D models
What I want is improved responsiveness/latency.

I'm pulling the trigger if 9950X is under 600 and exceeds 20% faster than my 7700X in browser benchmarks
Or even better if 9700X could be tweaked to match 9950 in single thread

Why do you think X3D doesn't improve latency and responsiveness?

If you want that improved you need to look at the lows, not the highs.

 

[Dave2150]

Why do you think X3D doesn't improve latency and responsiveness?

If you want that improved you need to look at the lows, not the highs.

Yeap, X3D chips are incredibly efficient and responsive. Most applications love the extra cache and take full advantage of it.

I'm sure buyers of Zen5 will enjoy, though personally I'd not even consider buying one when X3D is just around the corner and will thoroughly spank it. These non X3D chips will also depreciate incredibly quickly into their lifecycle. Wait a few weeks/months and pick one up half price or less!