AMD Zen3 event thread

pc-guy · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:10

Troezar said:
I paid £319.99 on release for my 3700X

yes 3700x was £320 3800x was £390

0121danwilliams84 · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:10

I didn't hear anything about x670 motherboards. Does anyone know if they are skipping them?

Curlyriff · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:10

Doobedoo said:
3600 (£200) to 5600 (£300) is a 50% increase

You don't compare current sales prices to the release prices though. That is just daft. You compare their release price to release price. Just like everyone does with Intel & Nvidia but for some reason don't with AMD.

lloydcars18 · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:11

Real Shame there is no 5700X With a box cooler for 350 pounds that would be a real steal i might just buy a Wraith Prism RGB the now for 20 quid for when the 5800x launches.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:11

MORE SPEED said:
Isn't the 5800x more aligned with the 3800x? 105W tdp, similar boost clocks etc. In that case the entire range is $50 more.

Look at the Ryzen 5 range. The 65W TDP Ryzen 5 5600X is $300,and the 65W TDP Ryzen 5 3600 was $200.

The Ryzen 5 5600XT is only $30 cheaper than the Ryzen 7 3700X launch pricing.

Joxeon said:
Intel is now the budget gaming option.

Apparently so. AMD did the same rubbish with the Athlon 64.

Hedge · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:12

Are people ignoring the likely impact that covid has on manufacturing and distribution of new products? Things costing more money than they did years ago isnt really surprising.

Troezar · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:12

Martini1991 said:
Surely the price increases have to change peoples perception of "Good guy AMD".

Prices increases are always crap, and AMD are just as "bad" as any company, but AMD look to have the best stuff on the planet so it is what it is. But I expect double standards as usual.

That's fair enough. I do wonder though if we reversed the position what would Intel's prices look like? I'm happy to wait it out

Curlyriff · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:12

amigafan2003 said:
$50, not 50%

No there was a few whom stated 50% increase a page or so back.

hlennie · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:13

So amd now kicks ass. Why on earth would they undercut intel they got a winning product. Things can only get better all round. Let’s just hope they don’t drop the ball with navi

Doobedoo · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:14

RavenXXX2 said:
Not the same skew.

It’s the same it’s just got an x on the end. They only have one 6 core on offer and it’s still a 50% increase on what I paid. Too much of an increase for me to spend.

I get that they are now the best but just like the others Intel and Nvidia they are milking customers. Not good.

Sargatanas2511 · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:15

Doobedoo said:
3600 (£200) to 5600 (£300) is a 50% increase

3600X to 5600X?

Doobedoo · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:15

Curlyriff said:
You don't compare current sales prices to the release prices though. That is just daft. You compare their release price to release price. Just like everyone does with Intel & Nvidia but for some reason don't with AMD.

Sorry dude but I brought on release for that price.

Chuk_Chuk · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:16

MORE SPEED said:
Yeah it's a $50 price creep

Thanks. I guess on the lower price point it is a bigger hike than at the higher price point.

LePhuronn · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:16

The_One said:
because they have their own gpus

But what's the point in that? If you're going to claim leadership in a certain metric you have to make apples-to-apples comparisons as best you can. The 2080 Ti was the card of choice for benching CPUs in gaming reviews. If AMD are going to show they now beat Intel in gaming then they must do so with as identical system as possible. And that means 2080 Ti.

MORE SPEED · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:16

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Look at the Ryzen 5 range. The 65W TDP Ryzen 5 5600X is $300,and the 65W TDP Ryzen 5 3600 was $200.

The Ryzen 5 5600XT is only $30 cheaper than the Ryzen 7 3700X launch pricing.

Apparently so. AMD did the same rubbish with the Athlon 64.

You're not comparing like for like here though, you need to look at 3600X vs. 5600X.

See here for more information:

Martini1991 · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:17

Troezar said:
That's fair enough. I do wonder though if we reversed the position what would Intel's prices look like? I'm happy to wait it out

How do you mean?

DarrenM343 · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:17

hlennie said:
So amd now kicks ass. Why on earth would they undercut intel they got a winning product. Things can only get better all round. Let’s just hope they don’t drop the ball with navi

Exactly. More profit = also more for further R&D too. Intel are not going to just roll over and die so will need to keep up development. Not sure about Navi and not in the market for an AMD GPU anyway. I can't unhear Big Knobby now after listing to that. I either need new speakers or new ears. Each time she said it I heard Big Knobby.
5950X looks great although I dunno, I think I want to wait for DDR5 before upgrading.

Doobedoo · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:18

Sargatanas2511 said:
3600X to 5600X?

Again it’s a 6 core vs 6 core their is no non x version so the equivalent replacement for me is 50% more expensive. No one brought a 3600x because they weren’t good value.

Shaolin Chicken · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:18

AMD knocked it out of the park, good presentation.
Shame about the prices though. Have to see what they convert to in £.

FoxEye · 8 Oct 2020 at 18:18

MORE SPEED said:
You're not comparing like for like here though, you need to look at 3600X vs. 5600X.

See here for more information:

And in that very video they say AMD has said they have no current plans for any more SKUs.

They speculate that they will come, but AMD are saying no plans.

Thus the 5600X is the only 6-core in the line up. There is no $200 SKU.