There wasnt covid and a huge impact on manufacturing and distribution worldwide.
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There wasnt covid and a huge impact on manufacturing and distribution worldwide.
Semantics are important here though. Otherwise you might say the same for the 9900 vs the 1900k and call it the same if you are not comparing the 9900k to the 10900k then you are looking at a different sku. I don't disagree that the 5600x is too expensive but the actual price increase needs to be at the same named chip.
I feel like they're probably not gonna stop manufacturing the lower Ryzen 3000 CPUs for a little while.You gone get mobbed by the AMD fans for saying that"Can't compare" "not the same" "best launch ever" "marry me Lisa" etc
Effectively there is no low end now. £300 and up if you want to buy an AMD CPU. £450 if you want 8-core.
Granted at the low end, but the % price difference is less higher up, someone listed them earlier, think it was 10% price increase on the 5900 and 6.5% on the 5950.... the performance increase is a fair bit higher than 10% and 6.5% so I figure it offers better value?
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But everyone whinged about Intel's price lol?
And Intel when they were smashing AMD weren't increasing their prices (Exchange rate aside) year on year for the most part.
End of the day, Intel/Nvidia/AMD are all as bad as each other. That's basically my point. Now AMD are the top dog, they can price that way and have chosen to.
They were disruptive originally because they came from a position of weakness.
I'm not even knocking them, I just find people to have double standards.
But AMD have done the same for every Ryzen generation with chips and letters at end? Yeah the 5600x is overpriced and should at best have gone to $249 in my view but the increase for the others are also not that big. 6.5% to 12.5% for 8 core, 12 core & 16 cores. It is just the 6 core that seems to be way off.
If they do I’ll be happy I’m not paying for a letter.
They have also released a non x version so those of us that don’t want to pay £50+ for a letter and 100mhz don’t have too. We no longer have that option. So as I said to replace my current 6 core it’ll cost me 50% more.
Well it's £269 for the 5600X, or maybe £10 either way of that. People were happy to pay that for a inferior* 10600K "'cause games" are faster, so surely if it is faster than the 10600K at 1080p with a RTX 3090 then everyone will buy one, or a 5800X, right, right?
Oh wait sorry, no they'll complain it is too expensive and Intel CPU are cheaper, and only 5% slower in games. You literally can see it coming right now.
My advice, buy the R5 3600 if you want VFM and performance, or you should have bought one when they were ~£145
Oh wait sorry, no they'll complain it is too expensive and Intel CPU are cheaper, and only 5% slower in games. You literally can see it coming right now.
My advice, buy the R5 3600 if you want VFM and performance, or you should have bought one when they were ~£145
Its probably so they can just hold current prices on the 3000 for those who want more budget options.You gone get mobbed by the AMD fans for saying that
Effectively there is no low end now. £300 and up if you want to buy an AMD CPU. £450 if you want 8-core.
Tbh I am not bothered by the 6 core part at all. However I think it is daft to compare different chips (be it just a letter) to make the price comparison worse in terms of the actual CPU. Cost of CPU at RRP and cost of upgrade are two different things.
Edit: I should say I am disappointed too at prices overall though and was expecting them to release at same RRP as previous. So I will be waiting to buy a CPU now till next year tbh. Shame as have been saving and got funds but not willing. Keeping the RRP would be fine and fair and give you a good price to performance increase. You do still get that with the higher core CPUs but not for the 6 core unfortunately.
Some do you're right. The only point I was making was Intel charge much more when they are top dog. It's now AMD's turn. I'd rather they didn't but Intel would charge more. Least worst option, bit like politics!
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$300 with perfect conversion and VAT would be £280.
So realistically close to £300 for a Ryzen 5 5600X. If AMD keeps to the $50 difference between the SKUs like before,that makes the Ryzen 5 5600 £230,so probably closer to £250.
So once the Zen2 stocks run out,it will be like 2017 again,when quad cores rule the roost under £200??
So realistically close to £300 for a Ryzen 5 5600X. If AMD keeps to the $50 difference between the SKUs like before,that makes the Ryzen 5 5600 £230,so probably closer to £250.
So once the Zen2 stocks run out,it will be like 2017 again,when quad cores rule the roost under £200??
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Yep already announced. No new chipset. New boards though. Looking sick too. Probably be cheaper to stick with current ones though.
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I'm pretty sure COVID had a positive impact on the PC vendors. Given you know, demand for everything has gone through the roof.
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Not for long though - once Zen2 stocks run out,and the new higher prices are the norm,secondhand prices will probably go up too.
Asus and msi have already mentioned or teased new x570 boards with the biggest change from what I can see, being a fanless design on the chipset