Ampere... what a disastrous launch!

[ebilcake]

Same thing happens every launch to some degree, taking into account Covid-19, it was always going to be a mess.

I wonder if AMD can do any better......

 

[Sargatanas2511]

It was a joke based on repeated observations .

I got that . It's the way things happen though!

 

[BigBANGtheory]

I don't get all the rush. There isn't a next gen game out until November. Don't give paper launches time of day, just wait a month maybe slightly longer and order then along with that next gen game that will make use of the new hardware?

Rush is simple
- Pent up demand from people skipping the Turing era, pretty much anyone not on Turing will have an interest and that is millions > hundreds of millions of people
- Pent up demand from increase in PC gaming, working from home, Covid lockdown etc
- Fear of missing out
- Fear of price inflation post launch
- Scalping
- Affordable 4k being available for past 5yrs, people want a solution

You might not agree with peoples motivations but its pretty easy to see why, it not all related to the next AAA game its people running legacy hardware.

 

[Dicehunter]

Even with AMD's big Navi being launched at the end of next month, Due to many retailers price gouging their sheer greed has put me off buying, I'll probably hold off until April or May.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I'm not convinced that Advanced Malfunctioning Devices will be able to save us this generation.

£400 2080ti performance is about the best we can hope for IMO.

 

[Dicehunter]

I'm not convinced that Advanced Malfunctioning Devices will be able to save us this generation.

£400 2080ti performance is about the best we can hope for IMO.

That wouldn't be bad IMO.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I'm not convinced that Advanced Malfunctioning Devices will be able to save us this generation.

£400 2080ti performance is about the best we can hope for IMO.

Its a bit of a shameful statement really. Sounds more like your bitter and need to accept nvidia screwed up and take it like a man. Cant keep playing the "its AMD's fault" card.

We dont know the real performance yet, if they only muster up 2080Ti for around £400 I am going to get a tattoo of Jensen holding a spatula.

 

[MissChief]

I think some perspective is required here. Sites such as OCUK have had as much as ten times their highest previous load during Black Friday and nvidia themselves were inundated with bots all trying to sign up due to poor decisions on their part with lack of Captcha as a prime example. There were tens of thousands of cards worldwide available but demand was massive, they could probably have sold half a million cards if they had them available. A ‘paper launch’ it was not, but yes, stock was far outstripped by demand.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Its a bit of a shameful statement really. Sounds more like your bitter and need to accept nvidia screwed up and take it like a man. Cant keep playing the "its AMD's fault" card.

My post didn't indicate it was AMD's fault so... I would be quite happy buying a £400 2080ti level performance card from them.

Not bitter at all, the card I currently own outperforms anything AMD can currently offer

I'm well aware that this launch from nVidia wasn't far off a paper one. nVidia site going from notify to out of stock within a millisecond. The biggest UK retailer receiving single-digit numbers for certain models etc.

 

[gpuerrilla]

My post didn't indicate it was AMD's fault so... I would be quite happy buying a £400 2080ti level performance card from them.

Not bitter at all, the card I currently own outperforms anything AMD can currently offer

I'm well aware that this launch from nVidia wasn't far off a paper one.

The post is about the launch fail. Dont deflect the attention from it, accept it and agree it was a balls up. Once you admit it - you can begin moving away from the addiction and mindshare that can do no wrong.

 

[StrikingBadger]

I think it's an absolute joke that NVIDIA didn't have captchas and 1-per-customer limits in place for launch day

the lunatics are running the godamn asylum

 

[Ayahuasca]

The post is about the launch fail. Dont deflect the attention from it, accept it and agree it was a balls up. Once you admit it - you can begin moving away from the addiction and mindshare that can do no wrong.

It's not a deflection and I've made posts on this forum before this thread was created stating nVidia knew what they were doing with this launch

My initial post was in response to those mentioning big Navi.

The launch is disastrous for us consumers, it's certainly not been a disaster for nVidia. They've manipulated it perfectly to create a false sense of supply and demand.

 

[Besty]

xxxx website is fine, can get straight on it. Not interested in the XB anyway - PS5 and 3080 is enough for me

Lol just as I type this, F5'd xxxx and website is now down haha.

Yep, its been killed lol

 

[Zeed]

Not placing any blame on OCUK, just want to get this off my chest.

I have never known such a botched launch of a product where there is next to no stock available anywhere!
And I don't really buy the 'unprecedented demand' crap coming from NVIDIA either, as I think they were well aware the demand would be high.
They say it was not a paper launch but it certainly feels that way to me and many others waiting for pre-orders to be filled with no indication of when that will be.
I just think they wanted to get out the door first regardless if they were ready or not and secure the orders before the AMD launch.

/rant over

I'm just waiting to see AMD doing FuryX 2.0 with even less stock than NV cause al silicone went in to Consoles and CPU's haha

 

[Zeed]

I wonder if it's something to do with covid restrictions, people having nothing else to do with their money.

Wonder ?? It's 100% that All my annual Ibiza mates that blow up 1-2k for a week blown it up on Hardware instead.

 

[MissChief]

It's not a deflection and I've made posts on this forum before this thread was created stating nVidia knew what they were doing with this launch

My initial post was in response to those mentioning big Navi.

The launch is disastrous for us consumers, it's certainly not been a disaster for nVidia. They've manipulated it perfectly to create a false sense of supply and demand.

I don’t think the demand is faked, it’s far outstripped nearly every other video card launch ever.

 

[Ayahuasca]

I don’t think the demand is faked, it’s far outstripped nearly every other video card launch ever.

I disagree, I think they knew they didn't have anywhere near enough 3080's to serve more than a few percent of day 1 buyers. They were very hush-hush on numbers when questioned. They're a multi-billion pound company who'll have some of the best data and market analysts working for them.

Yes, it's unrealistic to think that everyone should have been able to get their hands on one. However, what we've witnessed is the complete opposite in which 95% or more who were willing to buy first day either missed out or will be waiting for weeks/months.

We know they like to beat AMD to the punch, however, launching a month later would have improved things considerably as there's no sign of an imminent launch from their competitors.

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

I don’t think the demand is faked, it’s far outstripped nearly every other video card launch ever.

the demand is real, the stock is not.

nvidia said they canceled 100s of orders due to bots on their site not 1000s.

In any case scalping a gpu for profit at the beginning of production is a poor investment unless of course you already know they will be produced in low quantity for the foreseeable future.
Imagine apple made 50,000 new iphones for launch worldwide. The whole world would burn to the ground with people trying to get one.

Its the equivalent of a new console launch because a lot of people have been waiting for performance at this price range for many years. And Nvidia jumped the gun to get ahead as they are clearly not ready.

 

[MissChief]

I disagree, I think they knew they didn't have anywhere near enough 3080's to serve more than a few percent of day 1 buyers. They were very hush-hush on numbers when questioned. They're a multi-billion pound company who'll have some of the best data and market analysts working for them.

Yes, it's unrealistic to think that everyone should have been able to get their hands on one. However, what we've witnessed is the complete opposite in which 95% or more who were willing to buy first day either missed out or will be waiting for weeks/months.

We know they like to beat AMD to the punch, however, launching a month later would have improved things considerably as there's no sign of an imminent launch from their competitors.

Demand has been far, far above any previous card launch. If this were any other launch in the past five years or so then sure a few people would have missed out but nothing like as many now. Demand has far exceeded anything seen previously and while I agree stock,levels were perhaps below previous launches the demand has caused the problems here.

 

[Ayahuasca]

Demand has been far, far above any previous card launch. If this were any other launch in the past five years or so then sure a few people would have missed out but nothing like as many now. Demand has far exceeded anything seen previously and while I agree stock,levels were perhaps below previous launches the demand has caused the problems here.

Stock levels were way below many previous launches, single-digits for some models at the biggest retailers in each country. Their own UK shop for the FE had less than 1000 cards.

Demand alone isn't the problem, you've completely glossed over my point about nVidia having the means to measure what launch-day demand will be like. Even a wide-ranging ballpark figure would have shown them they were a long way off meeting even the lowest estimates.

The hype was off the scale following the kitchen launch and even when the more realistic benchmarks were published a few days beforehand people were still clamming for one.