animal rights activists sentenced under anti terrorism laws

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http://uk.news.yahoo.com/12092006/325/animal-rights-activists-sentenced-4-6-yrs.html

TRENTON, New Jersey (Reuters) - Three animal rights activists convicted under a U.S. anti-terrorism law were sentenced to between 48 and 72 months prison on Tuesday for a campaign to drive out of business Huntingdon Life Sciences, a company that tests pharmaceuticals and chemicals on animals.

Now why can't the police in the UK arrest animal rights protesters under anti terrorists laws and get these barbaric scum off are streets. After all they're using terror to ruin people lives and livelihoods.

They seem to get away with so much and rarely get a decent jail sentence .

 

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I just don't understand why police haven't been doing it before, there's not exactly a lack of evidence. The death threats, the intimidation court of cctv cameras, the bricks, the insults. What's worse it a lot of this happens in front of police to begin with...

 

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As a former small-time HLS shareholder and victim of a torrent of very nasty postal abuse, this is good news in principle. However, it's in America, so it hardly makes any difference where it matters. Does it mean our pansy government will follow suit? Not likely!

It sets an example, there's no reason why terrorist laws can't be used in the uk. It just needs some one to set a precedents in the courts, then it'll be taken up. It will eventually be used. It's just when is the question.

 

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Tell me wtf has their crime got to do with terrorism?

Terrorism is the systematic use, or threatened use, of violence to intimidate a population or government and thereby effect political, religious or ideological change.[1][2] Acts of terrorism are not intended to merely victimize or eliminate those who are killed, injured or taken hostage but rather to intimidate and influence the societies to which they belong.

most extreme animal rights people, use force, threatening behaviour and fear to try and get there way. This by definition is terrorism.

 

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But I do understand the frustration these people feel. I love animals... more than I love most humans. I would like to see much tighter controls on experiments... to the extent of having to apply for a permission for each new animal. If an animal is going to be sacrificed then it must be assured that it will not suffer intolerably and that there is a real chance of beneficial knowledge to be gained from it.

The uk has the strictest laws. All these animal rights people do is force companies to go abroad, where there are no laws. TBH I don't really care how many animals die, as long as good for the human race comes from it. I don't want to see un-need suffering. But some experiments can't be done with out suffering. Until there's a better alternative than animal testing then nothing can change.

 

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I guess it's just a question of morals.. you just don't have any.

Nope I have loads of morals. But i consider human life and the advancement of are society over some animals. Especially as most of those animals would die in pain anyway, from predators or naturall death. Nature is a crule thing, much cruler than we could ever be.

 

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Most animals in nature die quickly... we experiment on them until they die.

I'm not arguing AGAINST that, just that it's unnecesssary in many cases.

Human life takes priority, but I don't think you know how much unnecessary testing goes on... or if you do you're just plain evil.

Its vey necessary, as to pass drug laws it has to be tested on animals and all side effects (good or bad) be taken into acount. You also have to learn how they actually interact with the body and the variouse tissue/systems.