Another 737 gone down

I'm no scientist, but surely 340 mph is greater than terminal velocity? The engines must have been running all the way down for it to drop that fast.
I’m by no means an expert either but I think terminal velocity is dependent on mass of the object, and also drag co efficient.

So I guess it would very much depend on how the aircraft is falling, in terms of angle of attack, nose level or nose down.

too many variables to calculate
 
I’m by no means an expert either but I think terminal velocity is dependent on mass of the object, and also drag co efficient.

So I guess it would very much depend on how the aircraft is falling, in terms of angle of attack, nose level or nose down.

too many variables to calculate
doesn't terminal velocity kinda refer to a freefalling object affected by mavity? i don't think it takes into account something like this - assumption! - as in a plane losing flight control and suddenly pointing downwards w/ its engines still helping it on its way.
 
Indonesia has a very poor record when it comes to fatal aviation incidents since flight became available to them - 153 accidents and over 3000 dead - and is considered the most unsafe place to take a flight from, statistically speaking, in the whole of Asia. Poor maintenance, pilot training, communications or mechanical failures and air-traffic control problems seem alarmingly common.
 
So many comments on social media completely missing the point that it wasn’t a MAX and the journalist outlets being very clever with their titles and content. Sounds like a terrifying final few minutes. Thank goodness that on the whole we’ve developed a much safer record here.
 
I still think it went down somewhere around the estimated origin for the sound here
or towards the top of that ellipse - debris can also drift from there to Reunion.

The guy in that video covers this very well. Whilst we can all speculate until the cows come home, we simply have very little info to go on. I'm still of the opinion that it was a hijacking gone wrong.
 
Old airframe, poorly maintained and flown by pilots with limited training.

"Captain Afwan, who like many Indonesians goes by one name, started his flying career in the air force, before becoming a commercial pilot in 1987"

In this case, I'd say 33+ years experience is pretty good.

And yes it's an older frame, but it was built in 1994. I've been on transatlantic flights recently (2019), in airplanes older than that with British Airways.
 
doesn't terminal velocity kinda refer to a freefalling object affected by mavity? i don't think it takes into account something like this - assumption! - as in a plane losing flight control and suddenly pointing downwards w/ its engines still helping it on its way.
It does, but the post I was quoting was putting forward the theory that the engines must have been running and propelling the aircraft downwards otherwise terminal velocity wouldn't be enough to get it to the ground as quick as it did.
 
I'm no scientist, but surely 340 mph is greater than terminal velocity? The engines must have been running all the way down for it to drop that fast.

It does, but the post I was quoting was putting forward the theory that the engines must have been running and propelling the aircraft downwards otherwise terminal velocity wouldn't be enough to get it to the ground as quick as it did.

If it was pointing nose down then that's probably not even terminal velocity. Planes are heavy, and are designed to move through the air efficiently (in the right direction). A human in freefall can achieve 300+ mph: https://www.fai.org/page/isc-speed-skydiving.
 
Wreckage and body parts found recently according to Reuters

Morose , I'm guessing unlikely any bodies will actually be found? Wonder how many remains would have been eaten etc. Versus decomposing naturally

Sad the bodies won't be laid to rest in the usual way for the families
 
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