Considering that absolute bile you've posted like Poirot I'm surprised you missed it tbh.
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Considering that absolute bile you've posted like Poirot I'm surprised you missed it tbh.
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She was smirking as she is led away, totally uninjured and not in any discomfort..
His approach was not violent, it was clumsy at the very worst initially. Other than that it, it was assertive and effective subduing and removal of the protester.
It seems this is simply a case of "let's bash the politician" because it makes unhappy and frustrated people feel better.
His approach was not violent, it was clumsy at the very worst initially. Other than that it, it was assertive and effective subduing and removal of the protester.
It seems this is simply a case of "let's bash the politician" because it makes unhappy and frustrated people feel better.
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The absurdity of the press blowing this way out of proportion is worth commenting on. If his actions were so heinous as to merit him losing his job then I'm sure most of us would be on the dole.A non story that's worthy of comment? surely if it was that dull "a non story" you wouldn't comment.
It piqued your interest enough to comment....story.
He clearly never assaulted her, it was restraint.
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Considering that absolute bile you've posted like Poirot I'm surprised you missed it tbh.
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Bile? Sure, whatever you like to call it. But is it "accurate" bile? You don't have to like what I post, but it's an accurate description with no feeling for either side involved unlike many others.
As for your screengrab, unless his fingers are extremely hyper-mobile at the last joint (which I will not contest, could be possible), you can see that the alignment of his his fingers are nowhere near at an angle needed to have "dug in" to her neck. Does he have a grip on her neck from behind? Yes. Dug in? Unlikely, not according to the angle of the forearm (you can see his watch) and where the hand will be located (from the fingers involved). Also, at that angle, the fingers (index and middle finger) have some of her neck and jaw covering it (not necessarily from purposely digging into the neck, although again, I won't dispute this could have been the case, only there's no irrefutable evidence), and prior to the screengrab you can see the protestor pulling her head in and raising her shoulders ala a tortoise, in an effort to prevent further efforts of restraint. This will also cause the flesh around her neck (and jaw) to raise up more easily and make it appear that fingers are digging into the neck, when they are not really.
Try and hold your own neck, it's not an accurate representation of what happened, but you'll find it is very hard to have dug your fingers in and have a good control of the neck at the same time unless you have absolutely massive and powerful hands, something I'm sure Mark Field does not have in the video, and if they did would have easily left noticable marks (and we'd have a much bigger story on our hands). The person who was being held in such a way will also have broken away their neck hold if there was any digging in easily, since it's near impossible to dig your fingers in and restrain the neck by anyone without larger hands, and the protestor had their head/neck restrained the way out according to the video.
Well, you're right on all counts but one. The lizards were the guests already in the room.
Any footage I've seen on TV hasn't blow anything up. It's shown the footage with no suggestion he assaulted her. It's still a story.
Did you read the BBC link in the original post? It literally has the headline "MP Mark Field accused of assaulting Greenpeace activist". I have to admit I can't comment on the tv coverage of the "story" because I've not watched any.
I haven't read the link, only seen the footage on YT.
Aside from thinking, “Her ejection didn’t look really bad to me”,
I feel that your post says more about you, than anything else, of
course, in a free and democratic society, you can say what you like.
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This is the best post
It started off as merely good but it's hard not to give 5 stars for "raising her shoulders ala a tortoise". They should have sent a poet.
Erm, ok?
You don't restrain people by grabbing their neck.
While I’m reasonably sure that I can see where you’re coming from, if an assailant had his back to you, while attacking, or in a threatening stance with your friend/wife/ brother/whoever, I don’t think that you’d think twice before restraining him by grabbing his neck.
Granted, the woman in this instance wasn’t in an attacking mode, but you said that you don’t restrain people by grabbing their neck, I’m just pointing out, that in certain circumstances, you can.
But what does that say about you?
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The neck is a legitimate area to hold in self defence or escort. When escorting, the neck, collar, shoulder or elbow is where you gain the most leverage (forcing their head away and down) should somebody try and attack you, meaning it's easier to push/pull them to the floor.
If being directly attacked the neck is a red area but will guarantee that the attacker will stop what they are doing (stabbing, going for a weapon) and raise their hands involuntarily and protect their airways. The throat is a primal response area like the nose.
If trained you never go for somebody's hands as it's too easy to pull loose, use your full arm movements to pull/push away.
This is no comment on what Fields did and why, it's in response to this "you never grab a neck ever ever" arguement I keep hearing. Yes I am formally trained.
If being directly attacked the neck is a red area but will guarantee that the attacker will stop what they are doing (stabbing, going for a weapon) and raise their hands involuntarily and protect their airways. The throat is a primal response area like the nose.
If trained you never go for somebody's hands as it's too easy to pull loose, use your full arm movements to pull/push away.
This is no comment on what Fields did and why, it's in response to this "you never grab a neck ever ever" arguement I keep hearing. Yes I am formally trained.
Oh, I don’t know, maybe that I wouldn’t hesitate to grab an assailant by the neck if he was attacking one of my family, but if you want to put a different interpretation on it, knock yourself out, (no pun intended.)
I had to read that twice.