Another Example of Idiocy

omnomnom said:
He isn't restraining her, hes gone for her neck to through her out. Its completely uncalled for and ridiculous.

If you think someones armed then you aren't grabbing them by the back of the nexk, you're going for their hands.

You reckon he does that to a man? Absolutely not.
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Oh dear lord. The back of her neck. Get a grip.

Barging in to interrupt an elected politician giving a speech isn't exactly a peaceful protest, it just prevents debate. That's what these climate protesters want, they don't want any debate, they just want everyone to agree with them and if they don't they'll throw their toys out of the pram.
 
Werewolf said:
If he was worried about it, why did he leave her hands free and go for the neck?

That's not a restraint technique that stops someone using a weapon.

He was acting more like a drunken, violent thug than someone removing a (peaceful and non threatening) intruder, especially as given the location and the people present there would have been actual police present as well.
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I doubt he is trained in proper restraint technique. Security should never have let her get so far tp start with.
 
It's not as if an MP has ever been murdered recently. Oh wait...

As mentioned by someone else, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I don't have a problem with him removing her.
 
200sols said:
I doubt he is trained in proper restraint technique. Security should never have let her get so far tp start with.
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Have you ever done the PI course required to get your SIA licence? It's half a day of totally useless techniques unless the person being ejected is completely passive and box ticking to say you've been "trained".
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Oh dear lord. The back of her neck. Get a grip.

Barging in to interrupt an elected politician giving a speech isn't exactly a peaceful protest, it just prevents debate. That's what these climate protesters want, they don't want any debate, they just want everyone to agree with them and if they don't they'll throw their toys out of the pram.
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Get a grip about what? He's clearly grabbing her there isn't he?


Then ask her to leave. I guarantee if that was a bloke doing the protesting the little fart would have legged it.
 
200sols said:
At what point is it ok to intervene? Somebody could have a concealed knife etc... do we just let them walk up to the chancellor and take the risk?
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Omg...that person next to you right now could have a concealed knife! Quick, smash their face in!
 
“Earlier, the woman in red had interrupted the chancellor” - there it is, she’s clearly tried already and was told to sod off, she then poked the bear again and when flung outside like the cretin she’s proven herself to be, she cries wolf? That’s not how this works. As others have said: play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Good man.
 
It looked like he let anger get the better of him to be honest, in this day and age you really have to just form a barrier around the disruptive person and wait for them to get bored and leave or police to arrive. She'll probably be making it into a #metoo as well if it goes to court.

Climate protestors need to get a grip though they're becoming like rabid Jehovah's Witnesses.
 
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Dis86 said:
Omg...that person next to you right now could have a concealed knife! Quick, smash their face in!
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The person next to me is supposed to be here, they haven't barged in uninvited and refused to leave when asked, I am not a high risk politician.
 
mmj_uk said:
It looked like he let anger get the better of him to be honest, in this day and age you really have to just form a barrier around the disruptive person and wait for them to get bored and leave or police to arrive. She'll probably be making it into a #metoo as well if it goes to court.

Climate protestors need to get a grip though.
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this

poor decision making isnt it

you just stand up and politely say you cant go this way and he comes out of smelling of roses, makes you look calm, polite firm and decisive

bash her against a pillar then grab her by the back of the neck and march her out of the room....make you look like a drunk bully
 
Hedge said:
What if it wasn't a peaceful protest and let's say she had acid in her bag or something (unlikely I know)

Turn up somewhere you aren't invited and expect to be ejected.

If it was a male protestor would the reaction be the same?
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This.

Protesters think it's all good to act like ***** these days and apparently whoever they are going for has to sit and take it. He reacted and dealt with it, good on him.

For clarity, I'm all in favour of protest I just find it incongruous that protesters can do whatever they want and their targets have no right of response at all.
 
Dis86 said:
Um...it was a non-violent peaceful protest and he assaulted her!
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You can use reasonble force to remove someone or stop them, he doesn’t know whether she’s going to do something silly, what she has concealed etc... it’s not like he punched her, just removed her. I mean there is this recent milkshake thing and egging incidents, I think they’re well within their rights to remove someone like that swiftly.

Security had failed to stop her, she’s nearly at the speaker, he doesn’t know if she’s going to lob an egg or something similar so he stepped in then security took over.

I don’t see the issue tbh...
 
200sols said:
I doubt he is trained in proper restraint technique. Security should never have let her get so far tp start with.
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Exctly, security failed/didn’t react quickly enough and he stepped in. It was sloppy but so what, she didn’t get injured, no one was hurt and it minimised the disruption, dealt with the situation quicker. If more people did this then other disruptive actions would have less chance of success too.

Greenpeace once tried to disrupt open outcry trading in the IPE back in the open outcry/pit trading days. They got the **** kicked out of them. A former colleague was there according to him it wasn’t generally security doing it (security actually prevented some of the violence) but rather the traders were the ones who were kicking off and to be fair I can’t blame them too much, disrupt someone’s livelihood, especially in a high stress job and they’ll react angrily.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2005/feb/17/activists.climatechange
 
The_Abyss said:
Yes.

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Except you can see from the video when she was making her way past him there were none around, and still none had arrived after he'd gotten her back to the other end of the table. So while they may have been dealing with the protesters in general they weren't dealing with her possibly because the had their hands full with the main group.
 
I just think he could have done it better...he probably had a couple of glasses of wine at this point and I think he just loses his rag a bit

she was trying to walk past him, she was no threat to him, he could have just stood up and blocked her way...its a narrow gap

theres no real reason to push her about

just me as a bloke..I have never laid hands on a woman and wouldnt have gone about it like this, protestor or not, he could have handled it better

in the end it would have been tidied up...its just a protest and they would have gone away. they would have still got their dinner and the speeches would have continued..people get too angry too quickly

I just dont like seeing people pushed around

I have intervened twice in other situations where blokes have been screaming and pushing women, just to ask if they are alright, I dont dive in..once the girl said it was ok, once she said she wasnt and I called the police and the bloke left before they turned up

but then I am old fashioned
 
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