Another Example of Idiocy

Hades said:
I think climate change is a big issue and protests do draw attention to it. I do think it's one of the biggest issues facing humanity now. But why don't the protesters also get into careers where they can influence it? For example so many school children recently went on 'strike' when really they should be changing their future career to science, energy or politics. Also do Greenpeace channel some of their funds into scientific or enerrgy research?To some degree protesting about it is like shouting "I demand someone else must fix this".
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Because they're children? They are demanding that adults fix this now, by the time my 8 year old has "done science" and is employed it'll be too late.

It's not an either or situation. Kids are demanding we do what we can while they get the chance to do what they can. Christ, my daughter and her mates spent the other evening litter picking at the park, we'd never have done that as kids for no reason.
 
Protesting is asking someone else to do something about a problem you don't like. So you have to pick carefully who you protest at. Politicians will not be the people to solve climate change. Scientists and manufacturers are the people who create solutions. The only thing politicians can do is move money or apply tax breaks to encourage the correct behaviors.

However people cannot suddenly ditch fossil fuels unless the real world solutions are available to the market. It doesn't matter how many politicians you protest or how many you sit around a table, they are not going to be the ones actually making the next generation of sustainable fuel cell technology. Vote the Green party into government and will climate change get solved? No more likely than it would be solved by any other party. This is a global problem requiring global power and in the current age global power is corporate not government.

Some people just like to protest as a hobby or to give a direction and meaning to their life, but it's rarely these people who create anything that actually changes the world. The people changing the world are too busy already working on it.
 
MookJong said:
Protesting is asking someone else to do something about a problem you don't like. So you have to pick carefully who you protest at. Politicians will not be the people to solve climate change. Scientists and manufacturers are the people who create solutions. The only thing politicians can do is move money or apply tax breaks to encourage the correct behaviors.

However people cannot suddenly ditch fossil fuels unless the real world solutions are available to the market. It doesn't matter how many politicians you protest or how many you sit around a table, they are not going to be the ones actually making the next generation of sustainable fuel cell technology. Vote the Green party into government and will climate change get solved, no more than it would be solved by any other party.

Some people just like to protest as a hobby or to give a direction and meaning to their life, but it's rarely these people who create anything that actually changes the world. The people changing the world are too busy already working on it.
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Solutions require money, so unfortunately it is the politicians that need to be targeted.
 
BowdonUK said:
They shouldnt have been allowed in to the room. Where was security? The room had doors, why weren't they closed? I've been to political meetings and we've had security on the door. At a couple of meetings we even had people searched before entering. To say there was a government minister speaking the security was very lax. This example shows how lax it is, that a group of people can walk in to the building and no security messaged up "could be trouble coming". Very bad security.
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il say it again, according to the guy in question there was NO SECURITY at the event. god knows why, im expecting it being a case of no one wanted to pay for any as none was being provided by the tax payer.
 
GAC said:
il say it again, according to the guy in question there was NO SECURITY at the event. god knows why, im expecting it being a case of no one wanted to pay for any as none was being provided by the tax payer.
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Hammand would have had his own security. We know people working in ministerial positions all have security, some even have it when they have left the job depending on their position.

They should be lucky it was only greenpeace!
 
MookJong said:
Do you suggest they borrow it, tax it from the public or tax it from businesses?
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Any means necessary i imagine, don't really care anymore though. More than happy to experience the immense challenge of it personally. The country will be losing trillions to it regardless.
 
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