another school kid arrested

dirtydog · 13 Oct 2006 at 11:29

Efour2 said:
hmm sounds nice, Im in Romford thats all. No hostility

Ah I did wonder

I'm about 45 miles away up in Colchester

shifty_uk · 13 Oct 2006 at 11:34

wordy said:
If thats the case then she deffinatley can't be racist. We all know the ultimate fashion accessory for a teenage chav girl is a black baby

Psyk · 13 Oct 2006 at 11:37

Haven't read the whole thread so this might have already been said. Since when was it illegal to be racist? Even if she did say racist remarks, surely that's no reason to be arrested? Suspended from school maybe but put in jail?

shifty_uk · 13 Oct 2006 at 11:38

Psyk said:
Haven't read the whole thread so this might have already been said. Since when was it illegal to be racist? Even if she did say racist remarks, surely that's no reason to be arrested? Suspended from school maybe but put in jail?

New laws I think.

Poppy · 13 Oct 2006 at 11:58

AJUK said:
From reading the article the only racism I see is that towards a white schoolgirl.

ARGH RACIST YOU SAID WHITE etc etc

SexyGreyFox · 13 Oct 2006 at 12:12

singist said:
Codie ............. a good traditional English name that.

"allegedly referring to the students as "blacks""

Look at the photo' of her and tell me she's the little angel that her Mum would have you believe.

I'm flabbergasted that one of our oldest members is coming out with the crap above.
So the name Codie and wearing a school uniform with looped earrings makes her not an angel? Unbelievable.
Oh, and the term 'blacks' is actually the proper politically correct name for such people so it looks like you are the 'racist' if you use other words.

It may turn out that she is no angel but classing a person by her photo and name is just childish.

rabanthor · 13 Oct 2006 at 12:15

VIRII said:
It is noticeable that the schools with historically good scores and ofsted reports do not have high numbers of students for whom English is classed as a second language or high numbers of kids with behavioural or learning difficulties.

I wonder why this is? Could it be that kids who can't speak English well hold back the rest of the class as do those who disrupt class?

Doesnt seem to apply in this case.

"Fewer than two per cent of pupils at Harrop Fold come from an ethnic minority.

It had the worst GCSE results in the entire Salford LEA last year with just 15 per cent of pupils achieving five good passes including English and maths, a third of the national average. "

MoNkeE · 13 Oct 2006 at 12:16

Why can't we use the fact that she conforms to a aesthetic stereotype as a form of perception into her personality? Or is this just a case of being on one's high horse?

I'd say the way one looks can certainly help delude how they act - it's all part of how society works.

-RaZ

dirtydog · 13 Oct 2006 at 12:21

MoNkeE said:
Why can't we use the fact that she conforms to a aesthetic stereotype as a form of perception into her personality? Or is this just a case of being on one's high horse?

I'd say the way one looks can certainly help delude how they act - it's all part of how society works.

-RaZ

Delude - do you mean deduce?

I agree with dmpoole.

AtreuS · 13 Oct 2006 at 13:05

dmpoole said:
I'm flabbergasted that one of our oldest members is coming out with the crap above.
So the name Codie and wearing a school uniform with looped earrings makes her not an angel? Unbelievable.
Oh, and the term 'blacks' is actually the proper politically correct name for such people so it looks like you are the 'racist' if you use other words.

It may turn out that she is no angel but classing a person by her photo and name is just childish.

Go look up the word "irony" and come back and reread what he said. I read his post as meaning she ISNT an angel and is in all probability a mouthy racist chav anyway.

Still i do agree that wanting to move to a group you can communicate with isnt being racist at all, its being sensible. The teacher was obviously at major fault here and so was the school for allowing such situations to arise in the first place.

dirtydog · 13 Oct 2006 at 13:10

AtreuS said:
Go look up the word "irony" and come back and reread what he said. I read his post as meaning she ISNT an angel

So did dmpoole.

MoNkeE · 13 Oct 2006 at 13:15

dirtydog said:
Delude - do you mean deduce?

I agree with dmpoole.

Yeah, I meant deduce - one of those days

Do you agree with DMPoole that judging her by her photo is childish? It's not so much that I'm judging and condemning her, rather I can see that aesthetically she falls under the stereotype of looking a bit chav-ish. Which would make it believable if she had said possibly more than the report's letting on.

Yes, judging someone by their appearance isn't socially correct, but when we've not been told the whole story and we're left to deduce (yay, right word!) and speculate the rest of the facts, it doesn't make it any less of a valid observation.

-RaZ

Steve09 · 13 Oct 2006 at 13:46

Your in England, speak English.
I'm certainly not going to make the effort to learn Urdu or whatever the hell it is.

Today, in a Uni class, these 2 Indians were speaking whatever they talk.
I was like, WTF, for all I know they could be calling me a **** and generally taking the wee.

Mr Joshua · 13 Oct 2006 at 13:52

Ex-RoNiN said:
Just look at her, typical chav girl. I bet there's more to the story.

I know appearances can be deceptive but I can't help but agree, it was the first thing I noticed when I clicked the link.

VIRII · 13 Oct 2006 at 14:00

rabanthor said:
Doesnt seem to apply in this case.

"Fewer than two per cent of pupils at Harrop Fold come from an ethnic minority.

It had the worst GCSE results in the entire Salford LEA last year with just 15 per cent of pupils achieving five good passes including English and maths, a third of the national average. "

There are of course execptions to every rule and it might simply have rubbish teachers.
I have based my observations upon looking at a large number of schools and it is a generalisation not a hard and fast rule.
It could be that the school serves an area where the average parent is 14 years old too.

VIRII · 13 Oct 2006 at 14:01

MoNkeE said:
Why can't we use the fact that she conforms to a aesthetic stereotype as a form of perception into her personality? Or is this just a case of being on one's high horse?

I'd say the way one looks can certainly help delude how they act - it's all part of how society works.

-RaZ

So we can conclude without doubt that the two brothers in Forest gate were indeed guilty and terrorists then?

alexakasloth · 13 Oct 2006 at 14:13

VIRII said:
So we can conclude without doubt that the two brothers in Forest gate were indeed guilty and terrorists then?

Hey, why not just say anyone in a Turban is a terrorist aswell. As by his way of thinking terrorists are usually islamic, therefore islam = terrorists.

MoNkeE · 13 Oct 2006 at 14:19

How did I know this perspective would pop up? You're taking a large group, which happens to have a tiny minority which happen to be terrorist and comparing that to my large group which happens to have a large majority who confirm to their stereotype?

-RaZ

alexakasloth · 13 Oct 2006 at 14:21

MoNkeE said:
How did I know this perspective would pop up? You're taking a large group, which happens to have a tiny minority which happen to be terrorist and comparing that to my large group which happens to have a large majority who confirm to their stereotype?

-RaZ

You know this how? You have statistics ,you're saying it's a fact? Not to mention it's an insult to most of the british working class.

Supercow · 13 Oct 2006 at 14:24

greenlizard0 said:
Oh the ironing.....

God you're a pleb. As an Asian I'm pretty sick of your "pigeon-holeing" too.

Ironing?