Another Year-Another ripoff for me

The_K · 30 Dec 2006 at 21:55

Hi

I posted similar post recently but im gonna do another one cos im changing the subject sligtly. I am buying a new one specced like this:

Core 2 Duo 1.86 Ghz Processor (RETAIL)

1 GB DDR2 (667mhz) Memory

HIS X1950 Pro Graphics

Gigabyte GA_965P_S3 Mobo

Corsair 520W PSU

Seagate 250GB 7200rpm HDD

Some case for £30

all of this cost like £560-£570. I think im gonna be doing medium overclock so im getting the stock cpu heatsink. Would that be a decent machine?

Im concerned about the ram because i dont know if I should pay the extra £20 for 800mhz ones, since im not going for max overclock. Also considering a 7900GS instead of the HIS.

Lolcb · 30 Dec 2006 at 22:01

Go for 2Gb ram.

Scottland · 30 Dec 2006 at 22:03

Lolcb said:
Go for 2Gb ram.

I concur.

I'd stick with the X1950 though.

thefishdude · 30 Dec 2006 at 22:04

gfx card is spot on

2gb ram would be better you can get 2gb of ocuk 800mhz ram for 146.

either way i think you should get the 800mhz ram as you want a reasonable overclock,

as for the cpu/cooler if you dont mind oem then you can get an oem version of your cpu and a ac7 pro cooler for abiout same price as retail cpu

The_K · 30 Dec 2006 at 22:09

Im having problems with the budget to do that. Is it very important though? I think i can play well the current games with 1gb and upgrade to 2gb later.

Is it not possible to get to about 2.5 ghz with 667mhz ram cos thats about what im planning?

As you can see im a noob

thefishdude · 30 Dec 2006 at 22:27

if i have worked this out correctly (cider kicking in ) that cpu has a 7x multiplyer soo 2.5ghz equals a 357fsbx7. sooo with ram set at 1:1 ratio it would be running at 714mhz wich is a small overclock on 667 ram. but most ram can be overclocked a bit soo it should work all though as im sure you aware high you go mroe chance of it not working above that.

dont know what its like or waht memory you been looking at but you can get 800mhz 1gb of ocuk memroy for 75 and 2gb for 146. or 800mhz ram with better slightly tighter timings can get geil for 93

stinka · 30 Dec 2006 at 22:31

thefishdude said:
gfx card is spot on

2gb ram would be better you can get 2gb of ocuk 800mhz ram for 146.

either way i think you should get the 800mhz ram as you want a reasonable overclock,

as for the cpu/cooler if you dont mind oem then you can get an oem version of your cpu and a ac7 pro cooler for abiout same price as retail cpu

agree with this. id get 2gb now otherwise youll end up with 4x 512mb sticks and 2x 1gb sticks will oc better

The_K · 30 Dec 2006 at 23:41

thefishdude said:
if i have worked this out correctly (cider kicking in ) that cpu has a 7x multiplyer soo 2.5ghz equals a 357fsbx7. sooo with ram set at 1:1 ratio it would be running at 714mhz wich is a small overclock on 667 ram. but most ram can be overclocked a bit soo it should work all though as im sure you aware high you go mroe chance of it not working above that.

dont know what its like or waht memory you been looking at but you can get 800mhz 1gb of ocuk memroy for 75 and 2gb for 146. or 800mhz ram with better slightly tighter timings can get geil for 93

OcUK 1GB (2x512MB) PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Kit

Will that overclock fine?

Dark_Angel · 31 Dec 2006 at 00:06

The_K said:
OcUK 1GB (2x512MB) PC2-6400 800MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Kit

Will that overclock fine?

Why do you want 1GB for? 2GB is a far better choice in terms of future use.

thefishdude · 31 Dec 2006 at 00:14

that would be better yes because you wont really be overclocking it as is rated to run at 800mhz

so you can do a bigger overclock with out making the ram run faster then its ment to. never used ocuk's ram but should be up to the task fine

you could even overclock to 2.8ghz

and ram woul then run at 800mhz with 1:1 divider

The_K · 31 Dec 2006 at 02:40

Dark_Angel said:
Why do you want 1GB for? 2GB is a far better choice in terms of future use.

No money + No job = No 2GB for now

lay-z-boy · 31 Dec 2006 at 02:44

The_K said:
No money + No job = No 2GB for now

Well if its for now, why not get a single 1gb stick and add another 1gb at a later date?

Trusty · 31 Dec 2006 at 10:42

Yes, buy a 1gb stick if your can! Altho not sure if all intell run at 2t anyway!

HangTime · 31 Dec 2006 at 12:10

New builds should definitely have 2gig RAM. If you can't afford 2gig RAM, maybe you shouldn't be thinking about building a new system right now.

thefishdude · 31 Dec 2006 at 15:36

if you can only afford 1gb then 1gb it is

you can allways get 2gb later

one of te reasons people tend to recomend agaisnt this is that 2gb in 2x1gb sticks works faster then 2gb in 4x512mb sticks. so when you do upgrade at later date ytou may want to sell the 1gb and buy 2gb new

The_K · 31 Dec 2006 at 16:58

I dont fancy paying double for ram when i dont need it atm (refering to http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/memory/display/2gb-ram.html )

thefishdude said:
if you can only afford 1gb then 1gb it is you can allways get 2gb later one of te reasons people tend to recomend agaisnt this is that 2gb in 2x1gb sticks works faster then 2gb in 4x512mb sticks. so when you do upgrade at later date ytou may want to sell the 1gb and buy 2gb new

I will actually do just as thefishdude suggested, though I didn't know about the 4x512 issue. Thank you all

The_K · 31 Dec 2006 at 17:18

What if I get 2x512 now and later buy 1x1GB and arrange the ram to have 2x512 in channel A and 1x1GB in channel B? I would get dual channel but will it slow down the speed of the ram - im not using all four slots that way?

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thefishdude · 31 Dec 2006 at 17:33

im not a 100% certan but i think its the fact you have 2 channels used that effects it, there slowdown isnt huge and you may not even notice. but there is a slight difference.