Any advice for CPU Cooler

doyll said:
Apache is not as good as it's cracked up to be. BeQuiet! Silent Wing PWM is better.
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I am sorry, but really I am not familiar with PWM term. And is it a fan for airflow is that correct?

So if yes, then


http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-013-BQ

and

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-095-TR

I get both of these? Although I still don't know about what side I should get I mean the BeQuite one. Should I measured the empty fan slow and there is 3 different holes for different sizes and if I am not wrong its 120mm would fit. I want to order coolers this weekend.
 
PWM is Pulse-width modulation
Fan is 12v and PWM changes pulse to control the fan speed. The slower the pulse is slower the speed.

We need to find a an exhaust fan that moves same or more air than cooler fan. The reason we want the exhaust fan to pull as much or more air out of case than the heated air cooler coming out of cooler.

Problem is the coolers have 140mm fans and your exhaust vent is only 120mm :( 120mm fans move about 2/3 as much air than 140mm fans. That is why I have been slow in saying what fan I think you should get.

BeQuiet! moves 50cfm but Thermalright TY-140 moves 73cfm.... so 23cfm of heated air from cooler would not be removed from case.

What I'm trying to find is a 120mm exhaust fan that will move up to 73 cfm and not be too loud. Even Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850 only moves 57cfm. Scythe Ultra Kaza 3000 moves 78cfm but is 45dBA... quite loud. TY-140 is 21dBA & every 10dBA increase doubles how loud something sounds to us.. 20dba to 30dBA is twice as loud to 40dBA is twice as loud again so UK3000 is 4 times as loud:eek: They claim 40-50dBA is similar to library or home normal volume level but 45dBA is probably about what you stock cooler sounds like.

Only other way I can think of would be to build a duct/tube from cooler to back exhaust vent, but that might block the PSU intake.
 
Okay:

Get the Alpenfohn Matterhorn. It will fit better, you can get same fans for exhaust, and it will cool better in your case than True Spirit 140 because you can duct the hot exhaust out the back vent.

You can use Alpenfohn Wing Boost Plus PWM or Wing Boost Pure PWM fans
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-004-AL&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-009-AL&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4
Pic of my new duct. Sorry it's not in case but having some issues with system at the moment:
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Old duct in case:
PH-TC14PEmemside.jpg


Another ducted system before painting ducts:
Nickycomputerbackwithducting.jpg


Needed a cooler (Zaward Vapor 120) in her case that was small enough I could duct hot air out without blocking PSU intake.. same as your case. ;)

I can coach you on how to build duct. It's not hard. I use file folders for material, masking tape and glue stick to assemble and spray paint to color I want. Usually make a prototype to get everything fitting the way I want then make a pretty one. ;)
 
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doyll said:
PWM is Pulse-width modulation
Fan is 12v and PWM changes pulse to control the fan speed. The slower the pulse is slower the speed.

We need to find a an exhaust fan that moves same or more air than cooler fan. The reason we want the exhaust fan to pull as much or more air out of case than the heated air cooler coming out of cooler.

Problem is the coolers have 140mm fans and your exhaust vent is only 120mm :( 120mm fans move about 2/3 as much air than 140mm fans. That is why I have been slow in saying what fan I think you should get.

BeQuiet! moves 50cfm but Thermalright TY-140 moves 73cfm.... so 23cfm of heated air from cooler would not be removed from case.

What I'm trying to find is a 120mm exhaust fan that will move up to 73 cfm and not be too loud. Even Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1850 only moves 57cfm. Scythe Ultra Kaza 3000 moves 78cfm but is 45dBA... quite loud. TY-140 is 21dBA & every 10dBA increase doubles how loud something sounds to us.. 20dba to 30dBA is twice as loud to 40dBA is twice as loud again so UK3000 is 4 times as loud:eek: They claim 40-50dBA is similar to library or home normal volume level but 45dBA is probably about what you stock cooler sounds like.

Only other way I can think of would be to build a duct/tube from cooler to back exhaust vent, but that might block the PSU intake.
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Ok, but I do have one case fan (which pulls air out of computer) and if I put another 120mm fan that should do a trick or not? So all in all BeQuiet! + Thermalright TY-140 and I will see how it goes and if there going to be to much hot air inside the case I will change the case.
 
ergas003 said:
Ok, but I do have one case fan (which pulls air out of computer) and if I put another 120mm fan that should do a trick or not? So all in all BeQuiet! + Thermalright TY-140 and I will see how it goes and if there going to be to much hot air inside the case I will change the case.
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No, that is not what I said.. At least it wasn't what I meant to say.:confused:
doyll said:
Okay:

Get the Alpenfohn Matterhorn. It will fit better, you can get same fans for exhaust, and it will cool better in your case than True Spirit 140 because you can duct the hot exhaust out the back vent.

You can use Alpenfohn Wing Boost Plus PWM or Wing Boost Pure PWM fans
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-004-AL&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=FG-009-AL&groupid=701&catid=2331&subcat=4
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Is what I said above and proceeded to explain why.

That is Alpenfohn Matterhorn and Alpenfohn Wing Boost Plus PWM or Wing Boost Pure Plus PWM fans. :)

At the end of the day you get what you want to get. It's your decision.
 
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doyll said:
No, that is not what I said.. At least it wasn't what I meant to say.:confused:

Is what I said above and proceeded to explain why.

That is Alpenfohn Matterhorn and Alpenfohn Wing Boost Plus PWM or Wing Boost Pure Plus PWM fans. :)

At the end of the day you get what you want to get. It's your decision.
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So what about heatsink?
 
TheDesX77 said:
This isn't a bad cooler:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-007-PT&groupid=701&catid=2330&subcat=2348
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Phanteks TC14CS is a good cooler if you like downflow cooler. Downflow makes it impossible to keep hot exhaust air separated from cool intake air. ;)

Funny thing is the pics show the spring clip pins put in backwards.. (pin-->spingclip->fan hole instead of pin->fan hole->springclip).:confused: Guess OcUK photographer doesn't know how to assemble them and didn't bother to read the instructions. :rolleyes:
 
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