Any Denon AV owners who can help?

Firegod · 11 Apr 2024 at 15:21

Hello

I'm finally dipping my toe into surround sound with my AVR-X2400H. I bought x2 Cambridge Audio MIN22 satellite speakers to go to the sides. Up front I have my Triangle Borea BR08 floorstanding speakers. I don't have much room and I nearly went for the KEF T101 speakers but I think the Cambridge Audio satellites will perform better.

I've been reading the manual to see what I need to change on the Amp and I'm confused. :cry:

This is the setup I'm aiming for - minus the sub and center.

And that diagram is accessed from the top line of this amp assign table (link not shown).

It says "Can be set in all Amp Assign modes". What does that mean? Because, if I look at the Amp Assign modes, I can't see a 5.1 entry that relates to it. :confused:

I thought maybe just leave it at ZONE2 (Default)? But then the diagram looks like this according to the manual.

Any ideas? Or is that safe to use?

Once that is sorted I think I'm OK, I know I need to re-run Audyssey setup which is easy enough to do.

Oh, what sound mode would I then pick? Just set it back to "Auto" or should I manually set it to "Dolby Surround"? At the moment I have it set manually to "Stereo" as when it was on "Auto" it was choosing surrond modes when I only had two up front speakers, so I set it myself to be "Stereo". I know I don't want "Multi Ch Stereo" as that just pumps the same sound out of every speaker.

Thanks!

Firegod · 12 Apr 2024 at 16:06

Grimley said:
Denon AVR 4000x owner here. I feel your pain Reading the Manual for mine & yours is like Reading the book for the recently Deceased, It does my head in these days, years it would have sunk in & I'd get it to work straight away.
I've read your manual and Pages 143 (Center Spread) & Page 144 Subwoofer on/off. Denon doesnt confirm this in both Manuals, I have a hunch that Center spread should direct the centre channel info to the front L/R. Turning the sub off should send the full range to the front L/R too. Leave it on Auto as mine detects what comes in via the HDMI if you have got the sound set that way, it will tell you what its decoding (DS, DD, DTS, Atmos etc.)

Thanks mate. I think I have subwoofer already set to "off" so that is cool. I hadn't heard about Center Spread! Looks like that option is only available for selection if the sound mode is detected as "Dolby Surround" otherwise it isn't available. So I'll keep my eyes peeled for that one and change it to "on" and see if that helps with widening the front signal. I did some further research on reddit and AV forums specificaly about the amp assign setting. From what little info I could find, I think, you just leave it alone. Only change amp assign when using more than 5.1 speakers.

So I think my todo list is simply:

1. Hook up Surrond Right and Surrond Left for my new speakers.
2. Re-run Audyssey setup.
3. Make sure the rears are set to size "Small"
3. Set sound mode back to "Auto".
4. If signal is detected as "Dolby Surrond", jump into surrond parmaters, and set Center Spread to "on".

Cheers.

Firegod · 12 Apr 2024 at 16:19

hornetstinger said:
You still need a subwoofer though , those speakers only go down to 40hz. Pumping full range to them is not a good idea.

Thanks mate, yeah it's on the todo list. Would you suggest changing the fronts back to small as well?

Firegod · 12 Apr 2024 at 16:35

Armageus said:
But if he hasn't got one, he hasn't got one. Not everyone has either the budget, or space for even one subwoofer, let alone the 27 or whatever that you normally recommend.

Why can you not just suggest things that are helpful with what people actually have?

True buying the BR08's did take a good chunk of cash recently.

I would like a sub but, yeah, it is just on my todo list at some point haha. Thanks.

Firegod · 13 Apr 2024 at 19:54

Thanks all for the replies. Just got it setup a few hours ago, and all tidied up, and been watching loads of different stuff.

So Audyssey is all done. The min22 were correctly set to small. Still have fronts on large... for the mo. Crossover is at 150hz for surround. I'll mess around more for sure.

Amp assign is zone 2, thanks all, and yeah working fine. Woo! Sounding great.

Only thing I've had to tweak is channel level on the surrounds. Set them to - 4db and they blend a lot better I feel. They were a bit over powering before.