Any legalities for putting something up for a raffle?

cHk4 · 9 Oct 2016 at 12:45

Basically I ordered two limited edition items by mistake. 8 can get a full refund of the item (£399.99) but was thinking of doing a good deed and putting it up for a raffle with any profits going to an animal charity of the winners choice. I'm UK based and I'm wondering is there anything I should know? Would I get in trouble for doing this?
Thanks

weringo · 9 Oct 2016 at 14:10

Are you more likely to get more than £399 in the raffle? If not just get a refund and donate the proceeds to charity.

Efour · 9 Oct 2016 at 14:18

Don't believe you but how on earth are you going to get to do the logistics of it all. Selling tickets, affiliating it to an event or the charity. Who on earth buys raffle tickets at random from randoms in this day and age?

Seems to make more sense to return it and give four hundred quid to RSPCA, for whatever odd reasons you have.
or just sell it on ebay and keep the profits.

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.u.../Do-I-need-a-licence/Do-I-need-a-licence.aspx

Applicable if you sell "lots"

peterwalkley · 9 Oct 2016 at 16:19

Unless you specifically want it to go to an animal charity, probably easier to donate to a local school for a fete raffle prize. Most will have an active PTA with appropriate charity status and captive audience of punters (aka parents) to sell the tickets to.

dowie · 9 Oct 2016 at 17:15

peterwalkley said:
Unless you specifically want it to go to an animal charity, probably easier to donate to a local school for a fete raffle prize. Most will have an active PTA with appropriate charity status and captive audience of punters (aka parents) to sell the tickets to.

Firstly that might be sub optimal if this is a limited edition item - it could be quite specialist and there may be some group likely interested in it.

Secondly the OP said profit not proceeds which indicates he still wants his money back but is willing to sell > £399 in raffle tickets. (Otherwise there is not much point as he could simply donate the refund to charity)

And in answer to the OP, you'd be on shakey ground as these can't be run for personal gain and you getting your £399 back might be dodgy.

Tefal · 9 Oct 2016 at 17:26

You're not going to sell 400 quid of raffle tickets.

Get the refund

D3K · 9 Oct 2016 at 17:30

Whats the item?

siumatfung · 9 Oct 2016 at 17:36

bonus ball sadly seems to be the way forward jsut under 7£ a ticket

Scania · 9 Oct 2016 at 17:55

Just get a refund and donate it to a worthy good cause, far less hassle and still a good deed done.

cHk4 · 9 Oct 2016 at 20:35

It's nothing special really it's just the new gears of war Xbox one console. I do want my £399.99 back and anything above and beyond that is what I want to give to charity but I think as it has been said because I am keeping some of the money it might be on dodgy grounds.

terley · 9 Oct 2016 at 20:38

fleabay?

Pawnless Endgame · 9 Oct 2016 at 20:47

terley said:
fleabay?

notsureifserious.jpg A games console or any electronics e.g. a phone, and the OP (as a seller) will be bent around a barrel with a chargeback and a different (duff) Xbox One when returned.

I would just return the 2nd Xbox and do what you want with the £400.

Syla5 · 10 Oct 2016 at 13:08

cHk4 said:
It's nothing special really it's just the new gears of war Xbox one console. I do want my £399.99 back and anything above and beyond that is what I want to give to charity but I think as it has been said because I am keeping some of the money it might be on dodgy grounds.

A lot of people saying its dodgy, but what's dodgy about covering the costs of the prizes. There is no stipulation that the prizes costs cannot be recovered surely?

Isn't this exactly what they do with the supercar raffles in airports and shopping centres, they don't draw the winners until the cost of the prize is covered?

Tefal · 10 Oct 2016 at 13:17

http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/Gambling-sectors/Lotteries/Lotteries-raffles.aspx

need a license by the looks ofit

Pixel · 10 Oct 2016 at 13:24

Efour said:
Seems to make more sense to return it and give four hundred quid to RSPCA, for whatever odd reasons you have.

No one gives to them anymore, not since they became animal rights terrorists akin to PETA.

Semple · 10 Oct 2016 at 13:32

Syla5 said:
A lot of people saying its dodgy, but what's dodgy about covering the costs of the prizes. There is no stipulation that the prizes costs cannot be recovered surely?

Isn't this exactly what they do with the supercar raffles in airports and shopping centres, they don't draw the winners until the cost of the prize is covered?

As Tefal pointed out, i suspect a licence would be required.

Same way the lottery works.

If no-one purchased tickets, then they wouldn't have a prize to give.

Syla5 · 10 Oct 2016 at 14:04

Looking through the linked site, there are a few categories that that OP could be classed under not to need a licence and do exactly what he wants to do.

Arguably it would be a lot simpler, and a lot less hassle to just get a refund, but if the OP's aim is genuinely charitable then its not a bad gesture. I could see the £400 cost being recouped and the same again going to charity.

Tefal · 10 Oct 2016 at 14:05

Syla5 said:
Looking through the linked site, there are a few categories that that OP could be classed under not to need a licence and do exactly what he wants to do.

Arguably it would be a lot simpler, and a lot less hassle to just get a refund, but if the OP's aim is genuinely charitable then its not a bad gesture. I could see the £400 cost being recouped and the same again going to charity.

he's selling to the public ratehr than a closed group which seems to men a lciense is needed.

but lets face it even at 2 quid a ticket he aint selling 200 tickets

DaleTheWhale · 10 Oct 2016 at 14:08

Do a better deed and sell it to me for £300, I'm after one.

Avenged7Fold · 10 Oct 2016 at 14:12

MM auction for charity!

or return it and donate.

Seriously, the ag with selling tickets is not worth it. You are not just spending the console on the raffle but your time and if you plan to sell enough tickets to make this worth it, you will have to consider how much your time is worth.