Any pricing info for BT's planned FTTC rollout?

[scamartist]

Been having a look around this morning and couldn't find anything.

As above, does anybody know what the pricing may be when this goes live and goes on sale.

Thanks in advance.

 

[bigredshark]

Well I can only offer BT's FTTP indicative pricing (from openreach note). They're saying a 10Mbps/2Mbps line at £8.33 per month, and a 100Mbps line at £44 per month. I suspect FTTC will be more expensive than that which means it'll likely be a fair bit more expensive than regular xDSL...

 

[Azuse05]

Why would fttc be more expensive if it uses less cable and is installed using existing conduits while fttp requires a new line to be installed?

Regardless, it's more expensive than an adsl, but it's cheaper per mb i.e. you get more for your money. Or you will until bt throttle it.

 

[bigredshark]

Why would fttc be more expensive if it uses less cable and is installed using existing conduits while fttp requires a new line to be installed?

Regardless, it's more expensive than an adsl, but it's cheaper per mb i.e. you get more for your money. Or you will until bt throttle it.

Because it requires a DSLAM in each cabinet and they're very expensive. You can't even benefit from the economies of buying units with huge port density at the exchange, there's only a relatively small number of users per cabinet.

FTTP is only to date installed on greenfield sites so it can go in with utilities and is cheap as chips to install.

FTTP is (i assume) going to use GPON anyway so the cable saving is marginal.

And lastly - those are openreach prices, double that for end users I would imagine (well maybe not at the top end, 50% more maybe)

 

[Alexrose1uk]

All I can say is I really hope they rethink thier policy on FTTC, right now they seem to be rolling out to busy/central areas, the irony of this is that in general, these places are the places that could do with FTTC the least (as they're likely to have LLU/ADSL2+ availability and/or cable); if they installed FTTC in the further outlying/countryside areas, they'd make a massive difference to the line capabilities of people who have poor connections right now due to line length, whilst people in central areas are more likely to get decent speeds anyway.

I understand WHY they're doing it this way; just for the improvement of the overall network it seems the wrong way to go about it...improve inwards, not outwards!

Still, if they get the project massively rolling and massively increase connection capabilities and speeds, then everyone will benefit in the long run, if they follow through and upgrade every cab over the next 5 years or so.

 

[AbsenceJam]

All I can say is I really hope they rethink thier policy on FTTC, right now they seem to be rolling out to busy/central areas, the irony of this is that in general, these places are the places that could do with FTTC the least (as they're likely to have LLU/ADSL2+ availability and/or cable); if they installed FTTC in the further outlying/countryside areas, they'd make a massive difference to the line capabilities of people who have poor connections right now due to line length, whilst people in central areas are more likely to get decent speeds anyway.

I understand WHY they're doing it this way; just for the improvement of the overall network it seems the wrong way to go about it...improve inwards, not outwards!

Still, if they get the project massively rolling and massively increase connection capabilities and speeds, then everyone will benefit in the long run, if they follow through and upgrade every cab over the next 5 years or so.

It's not a policy, it's business sense. It costs so much more to fibre up less dense areas and there's a lot less custom.

 

[Alexrose1uk]

Oh as I said, I know it is, I know WHY they're doing it this way round, it's just a shame!

Im sure you can see the irony in it, effectively the good areas become even better, whilst the poor areas stay poor, it really is a digital divide

 

[bigredshark]

It's not a policy, it's business sense. It costs so much more to fibre up less dense areas and there's a lot less custom.

This is the truth and there's no way round it. If you expect BT to be a profit making private company you can't tell them to ignore business sense to upgrade some areas before more profitable ones...

And if you want a free open market for internet services then BT must be a private, profit making entity. The two aren't compatible unfortunately and letting BT follow business sense when it comes to FTTC is the lesser of the many evils...