Any prison officers here?

Did 8 odd years.

Defo do not recommend, at all. Job has changed a lot since I left but 100% would not recommend for anyone.

Better career change options out there, safer ones too.
 
I know someone who left the prison service for a bus driving job.

He's back with the prison service now so while I can't say how bad the job is, it would appear being a bus driver is worse.

HTH
 
I walked the landings for a few years. I would definitely not recommend this occupation. Cons these days have more rights than the staff, and the cons know it.

It's what I thought I wanted to do after leaving the Military; I soon realised it wasn't for me. Staff cuts would often see only one or two officers per 60 inmates. Cons have no qualms about assaulting staff. Once upon a time, there was an honour amongst thieves, that female staff in male prison wouldn't be assaulted. It was very evident that was going out the window when I hung up my keys for good. Improvised weapons are rife, usually with another con's name on them, but occasionally it was a staff member for whom it's intended.

The job affected me personally. I'd get home from a 12+ hour shift, having spent the day telling cons "no" to their needy, unrealistic requests, "no" to bringing in contraband, shouting, physical intervention and restraint, etc, that all I would want to to do when I got home was sit in silence, with a beer, ignore my Mrs and daughters and dread the next time I was due in work.

Prison life is a very secret and unique experience. Unless you've worked inside, or been inside, it's really difficult, if not impossible, to articulate what life inside is really like. Gangs, drug dealing, debts with intrest rates and repayment methods Wonga would be proud of (if they were still trading, obviously!). A lot of cons choose to be inside on purpose. Whether that's they've been inside so long, they're institutionalised and when they get out they can't handle life on the outside, some are homeless and come in for a place to stay and something to eat. Some come in purely do deal.

Despite my negativity, I still have the utmost respect for those still in the job. Someone's got to I suppose. Up here, there was a feature on the BBC news about potential new recruits being University graduates. Their inexperience and naivety shone through with their 'I can help and hope to make a difference' attitude. Simply put, that mentality just isn't compatible with prison life. Most inmates don't want to be rehabilitated.

Then there's your personal life to consider. Cons will profile you, extract as much information from you as they can. And they're good at it. The most apparently innocent of interactions will be a gold mine for them. They will befriend you, ask about you and your family. They'll research you and your family and look for social media profiles. I was always single without children and what little social media presence I had at the time was tightly locked down and I wasn't using my real name. It's not unheard of for associates of cons to ring the doorbell of staff houses, or worse.

The recent drama on BBC One, "Time" I feel, portrays prison life, albeit a small part of it, extremely accurately.

Sorry for the long post, but hope it's of some use to you, OP.

What’s a prison officers attitude to being called a screw?

Is it an insult?

Absolutely not an insult and I wasn't offended by it. Just slang that originates from the early days of incarceration. No different to the police being called filth/pigs, just water off a duck's back. Anyone who is personally offended by this is probably in the wrong job.
 
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Not a prison officer as such, but very similar. When I was younger I worked in a high security unit for criminals with severe mental health issues. For me (at the time at least), it was a natural progression from my previous job as a member of the support / intervention team at a secure unit for violent young adults. An average day would entail being bombarded with requests for things, being verbally abused, and having to restrain people; something I firmly disliked, because although we often got the **** kicked out of us, one accidental mark on the inmate / patient and it would mean lots of paperwork.

Hate isn't a word I use often, but I absolutely hated it. Someone mentioned previously about coming home from a shift, and just wanting to sit quietly. I wholeheartedly agree.

So I suppose my answer would be yes. It's terrible.
 
Seems like the average Prison Officer wage is around 24-26K a year (outside London)

The risks involved in such a job i don't think they are paid anywhere near enough, I wouldn't do it.

Have you considered the Police at all? i know they're pretty much the same, Underpaid and high risk. But id much rather do that than be stuck in a prison with inmates that have nothing to loose.
 
What’s a prison officers attitude to being called a screw?

Is it an insult?

Nah standard prison parlance, screw/kanga is normal.

Used to be said that you were a screw if you trained at one location but an Officer if you trained at another but its all much of a muchness.
 
Client of mine is an ex 30 year Prison Officer and once said to me - " I wouldn't wish that job on my worse enemy"

He didn't really have any other options work wise at the time (retired 15 years ago now) but said it took such a toll on him mentally that it destroyed two of his marriages....Similar to @FBi7 comments above - My client said he just would come home and want silence and quiet and not speak to anyone. Sounds horrific when he used to speak about it all.
 
Thank you all for your input. It doesn't sound like the right career move for me at all.

Seems like the average Prison Officer wage is around 24-26K a year (outside London)

The risks involved in such a job i don't think they are paid anywhere near enough, I wouldn't do it.

Have you considered the Police at all? i know they're pretty much the same, Underpaid and high risk. But id much rather do that than be stuck in a prison with inmates that have nothing to loose.

I have put in an application to the Police, I have all fingers and toes crossed but I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
I walked the landings for a few years. I would definitely not recommend this occupation. Cons these days have more rights than the staff, and the cons know it.

It's what I thought I wanted to do after leaving the Military; I soon realised it wasn't for me. Staff cuts would often see only one or two officers per 60 inmates. Cons have no qualms about assaulting staff. Once upon a time, there was an honour amongst thieves, that female staff in male prison wouldn't be assaulted. It was very evident that was going out the window when I hung up my keys for good. Improvised weapons are rife, usually with another con's name on them, but occasionally it was a staff member for whom it's intended.

The job affected me personally. I'd get home from a 12+ hour shift, having spent the day telling cons "no" to their needy, unrealistic requests, "no" to bringing in contraband, shouting, physical intervention and restraint, etc, that all I would want to to do when I got home was sit in silence, with a beer, ignore my Mrs and daughters and dread the next time I was due in work.

Prison life is a very secret and unique experience. Unless you've worked inside, or been inside, it's really difficult, if not impossible, to articulate what life inside is really like. Gangs, drug dealing, debts with intrest rates and repayment methods Wonga would be proud of (if they were still trading, obviously!). A lot of cons choose to be inside on purpose. Whether that's they've been inside so long, they're institutionalised and when they get out they can't handle life on the outside, some are homeless and come in for a place to stay and something to eat. Some come in purely do deal.

Despite my negativity, I still have the utmost respect for those still in the job. Someone's got to I suppose. Up here, there was a feature on the BBC news about potential new recruits being University graduates. Their inexperience and naivety shone through with their 'I can help and hope to make a difference' attitude. Simply put, that mentality just isn't compatible with prison life. Most inmates don't want to be rehabilitated.

Then there's your personal life to consider. Cons will profile you, extract as much information from you as they can. And they're good at it. The most apparently innocent of interactions will be a gold mine for them. They will befriend you, ask about you and your family. They'll research you and your family and look for social media profiles. I was always single without children and what little social media presence I had at the time was tightly locked down and I wasn't using my real name. It's not unheard of for associates of cons to ring the doorbell of staff houses, or worse.

The recent drama on BBC One, "Time" I feel, portrays prison life, albeit a small part of it, extremely accurately.

Sorry for the long post, but hope it's of some use to you, OP.



Absolutely not an insult and I wasn't offended by it. Just slang that originates from the early days of incarceration. No different to the police being called filth/pigs, just water off a duck's back. Anyone who is personally offended by this is probably in the wrong job.

Thanks for such a detailed reply. Interesting to hear your views on the matter, as I am also ex military.
 
I walked the landings for a few years. I would definitely not recommend this occupation. Cons these days have more rights than the staff, and the cons know it.
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Really interesting post. Thank you for sharing. There's no way I'd ever be able to hack it in that line of work. I knew that before reading your post, but it's still very insightful.
 
My Dad did it for years, guessing at least 15 years back when I was a kid, through my teens.

It really messed him up, he wasn't the type who could deal with cutting down someone who had hung themselves and just go about life. He'd always been a drinker, but he ended up addicted to booze and steroids (God knows what else) and ended up divorced, in hospital a whisker away from death.

He's fine now, but it's definitely not a job for everyone.
 
Thanks for such a detailed reply. Interesting to hear your views on the matter, as I am also ex military.

I would suggest, if you can, to apply to become a Special Constable first. It'll help your application considerably but more importantly it'll give you a far better insight into what the job really involves.
 
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