As someone who doesn't have Youtube premium I can vouch for the fact that adverts are WAAY worse on TV (via Sky or AppleTV for me) than they are on desktop browser. It's put me off the idea completely.
Anyone else getting subscription burnout?
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Weve been without netflix for a while now, had my package a a Turkish one paying sub 5quid a month for a good while.
Apparantly my payment "failed" one month as the bank rejected it, bank never even received the payment reqeust lol.
Dunno why Netflix didn't just say oh yeah we've cancelled yer account haha
Theres a few things on there I'd like to watch now... like ********* am I paying £18 a month for it tho, I'll await a holiday somewhere and signup again.
I'm fancying india but I'll need a local esim and I'm struggling to find one
Apparantly my payment "failed" one month as the bank rejected it, bank never even received the payment reqeust lol.
Dunno why Netflix didn't just say oh yeah we've cancelled yer account haha
Theres a few things on there I'd like to watch now... like ********* am I paying £18 a month for it tho, I'll await a holiday somewhere and signup again.
I'm fancying india but I'll need a local esim and I'm struggling to find one
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Apparently you can join the New Zealand National Trust for half the price of the UK NT & you still get to access all the UK properties. Doesn't inlcude the cost pf parking though. Somebody I know, did just that.
Cheers lad.
Cancelled Sky yesterday, latest price increase prompted us to consider how much we actually use it, and the answer was "not enough".
Not decided yet whether to keep our Netflix sub going, drop down to the lowest tier, or just bin that altogether as well...
Not decided yet whether to keep our Netflix sub going, drop down to the lowest tier, or just bin that altogether as well...
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I do wonder if torrent sites have seen an increase since the explosion of all the different streaming services?
No chance would I sub to all of them these days.
No chance would I sub to all of them these days.
For people that have an Android phone or tablet you can use an application called NewPipe to replace some YouTube premium functionality. It lets you download videos, play them with the screen off and also blocks adverts. The only two negatives are that you have to side load it as Google won't allow it in the Play Store, and because you can't login to your Google account with it you can't see your normal channel subscriptions without searching for them.
But it's useful to listen to videos while on a walk with the screen off, or to fall asleep to without adverts blocking it every five minutes.
But it's useful to listen to videos while on a walk with the screen off, or to fall asleep to without adverts blocking it every five minutes.
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I was tempted by this until I realised that the UK entities get 0% of your payment. The cost for an overseas family membership to the NZ NT is £200, compared to £169 for National Trust and £144 for English Heritage. I'd rather fund the local guys for the £9/month difference.
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Yeah its getting absurd now - I've cut out all Netflix, amazon, all music sub apps now - I've gone back to MP3's that I own as I only listen to the same stuff anyway so why bother with a subscription to listen to it ?! Remember the old days when you bought an album and that was it?! lol
Otherwise I do have a couple of cloud storage subscriptions and 2 yearly subscriptions to software I use for my business but thats about it now - I want to get back into physical media ownership also, bluray for films, shows etc as again I only watch largely the same stuff, so I may as well own it.
Otherwise I do have a couple of cloud storage subscriptions and 2 yearly subscriptions to software I use for my business but thats about it now - I want to get back into physical media ownership also, bluray for films, shows etc as again I only watch largely the same stuff, so I may as well own it.
That's good to know at least - I have youtube premium and netflix but that's it.
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In the year that I posted this, I’ve kept off Netflix, Amazon and all the others I didn’t feel I needed.
I’ve kept YouTube Premium and Spotify, but I consume these the most.
It feels okay to have the cost at around £20 a month total, but I wouldn’t want it to keep creeping up.
It has been really nice though and I’ve spent considerably less money on Amazon, as the postage cost has made me really consider if I need it.
If I have needed it, I’ll add it to the basket and leave it there until I’ve got >£20 of stuff.
I’ve even paid my phone SIM for 2 years. Mortgage advisor was pleasantly surprised to see the lack of monthly outgoings.
Feel like my finances are quite well optimised.
I’ve kept YouTube Premium and Spotify, but I consume these the most.
It feels okay to have the cost at around £20 a month total, but I wouldn’t want it to keep creeping up.
It has been really nice though and I’ve spent considerably less money on Amazon, as the postage cost has made me really consider if I need it.
If I have needed it, I’ll add it to the basket and leave it there until I’ve got >£20 of stuff.
I’ve even paid my phone SIM for 2 years. Mortgage advisor was pleasantly surprised to see the lack of monthly outgoings.
Feel like my finances are quite well optimised.
Out of general interest, why do you keep Spotify and YouTube Premium, as I believe YT Premium comes with music subscription?
I had an email from 1Password regarding their price going up, and whilst it wasn't a large increase, their reasoning in the email annoyed me. Essentially "hey, so we've added all these features and innovation whilst not raising pricing over the last x years - so now we're going to raise our prices". So you stomached the innovation cost when it hit you, but now you want money for it?
Bitwarden is cheaper with the same features so I've jumped ship, I was paying £3.69 p/m for 1Password. It's £1.22 for Bitwarden and I went with paid to get the 2FA codes automatically generated, technically from what I've read, you can also get this for free by having their Autheticator app also installed and getting the two apps to sync but reviews on the Google Play store suggested this didn't work well.
I had an email from 1Password regarding their price going up, and whilst it wasn't a large increase, their reasoning in the email annoyed me. Essentially "hey, so we've added all these features and innovation whilst not raising pricing over the last x years - so now we're going to raise our prices". So you stomached the innovation cost when it hit you, but now you want money for it?
Bitwarden is cheaper with the same features so I've jumped ship, I was paying £3.69 p/m for 1Password. It's £1.22 for Bitwarden and I went with paid to get the 2FA codes automatically generated, technically from what I've read, you can also get this for free by having their Autheticator app also installed and getting the two apps to sync but reviews on the Google Play store suggested this didn't work well.
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Same I cancelled 1Password and went to Apple Passwords which is free, it’s basic but enough for me.
My 1p runs until December but I might just cancel the account altogether now, once I know all my passwords work ok.
I find it funny when people respond to large threads about the price rise with “it’s only $1 extra a month quit with the complaining”
That’s a really odd attitude to take.
Also cancelled Apple One and just kept iCloud storage.
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Because YouTube music is terrible:
Rubbish app (why on earth has it got shorts in it for goodness sake)
Lacking music on Spotify I listen to
Can’t connect to my HiFi without AirPlay
I wouldn’t use it if it was free, personally.
I use Bitwarden but the free one. Considering paying because the app I use, Raivo, has become terribly annoying.
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Just migrated from Raivo to another app, which seems quite nice.
Easy to export from Raivo
Easy to export from Raivo
I'm actually finding Bitwarden a better user experience, at least on Android - far quicker and more reliable in terms of when the autofill option appears at the top of my keyboard. When 1Password talk about innovation, which they genuinely may have implemented, I can't say it was meaningful innovation because I can't think of a single feature I've noticed over the several years of using the service.
I'm not quite sure how you came to that logic.
Their costs will have gone up over the past 5 years by probably 20% or more. They will likely have gone up that much simply on salary increases due to inflation unless they haven't paid their staff in line with inflation.
Their profit margin might have been comfortable 5 years ago and now its not comfortable. They may have been eating into their cash reserves or barely turning a profit as a result of these cost increases.
This might not mean anything to you but Zwift did the same thing. Didn't raise prices for 7 years or something and then suddenly raised them by 25% saying that they wanted to invest in the product and that they hadn't increased prices in years. They would have been far better off and received far less backlash if they charged 3% more every year despite the delayed increase being better for customers because of the shock and the backlash.
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What did really **** me off recently was getting a letter from three saying that due to changes in the rules about making price increases transparent they have to do it in monetary amounts not a percentage. So they have increased contracts arbitrarily by X pounds depending on the type of contract.
Mine was £16/month and it was going up by £1.90. Thats basically 12%. I would have just ignored it if it was 3-4% on the price I was paying but the ******* cheek to use rule changes designed to make it more obvious what increase you were being charged to just charge way more annoyed the hell out of me.
Phoned up and threatened to cancel and ended up on a £7 month contract for the same plan essentially. If they had just been remotely fair instead of complete *****...
I'm sure if you asked them to explain it i'm sure they would have a decent list of cool things they have added. All software runs into the same fundamental issue though. There comes a point where the vast majority of your userbase either doesn't want to learn new features or has no interest in them. They use 20% of your product and the value proposition is based on that usage. You can make the product 100x bigger and better but if they don't care, they won't pay more. Adobe found this out with photoshop. A hell of a lot of people simply want to do really basic stuff to images with a good UI, myself included. Thats worth about £5/month to me. Its not worth £20/month. I don't doubt that professionals who use a lot of the advanced stuff see waaaay more value in it but I don't.
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Or they might have 3x as many customers as 5 years ago and be posting bumper profits, and have calculated that enough existing customers will stick around even with the price increases that it will be even more profitable despite a certain percentage leaving.
It's another one we're re-assessing, currently on the family plan and it's going up to ~$86/year
It's an artificially created issue which only exists due to the neverending search for more profit.
If there's no value to your customers in what you're doing, then why do it? (The answer is of course because of those customers, a large percentage will be too lazy to cancel regardless of the lack of value).
Considering ditching Prime as well, we don't watch anything on there, so it's only really the free delivery which is worthwhile.
Spotify is the only one we're definitely getting value from; use it 6-7 hours a day, always finding new bands to listen to, plus audio books, I dread to think what it would have cost me to actually buy everything I listen to!
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